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Old 05-08-2008, 01:40 AM
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There's nothing I like better than fatuous simpletons speaking down to me with information they are too dumb to realize is deceptive propaganda designed to fool the very idiotic constituency that is taking it and running with it.

YOU are the one with no understanding of GW and the science.


Global Warming is not linear. It doesn't happening equally everywhere in a direct fashion. Because of the complicated nature of weather and climate patterns some areas will experience localized increases in cooling and icepack while others will experience melting. You people are extreme idiots to think this simple ruse makes the accelerated melting in Greenland go away.

I've already explained this on this site. The fact you morons come back with the same scripts given to you by dishonest manipulators shows you have no comprehension of what you read and all you can do is cut and paste propaganda links.


America is an ill place run by greedy powers. It's obvious these self-interested powers want to avoid any responsibility for GW so they practice criminal deceit in order to get dumbheads like yourselves to back them. They don't care what happens to the world they just want money. What we are seeing here are the spoiled powers that be using the old political tactics of willing something to be because they want it that way. But they've made a fatal mistake with Gaia. Gaia doesn't play.

I've taken a new attitude on all this. If Americans want to line up on the denial side of this then let Gaia "bring it on". Fuck 'em. America isn't an exception to reality.
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Old 05-08-2008, 03:09 AM
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America isn't an exception to reality.
I beg to differ, we are shielded from reality just fine thank you....gooOO media..yeah
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:19 AM
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There's nothing I like better than fatuous simpletons speaking down to me with information they are too dumb to realize is deceptive propaganda designed to fool the very idiotic constituency that is taking it and running with it.

YOU are the one with no understanding of GW and the science.


Global Warming is not linear. It doesn't happening equally everywhere in a direct fashion. Because of the complicated nature of weather and climate patterns some areas will experience localized increases in cooling and icepack while others will experience melting. You people are extreme idiots to think this simple ruse makes the accelerated melting in Greenland go away.

I've already explained this on this site. The fact you morons come back with the same scripts given to you by dishonest manipulators shows you have no comprehension of what you read and all you can do is cut and paste propaganda links.


America is an ill place run by greedy powers. It's obvious these self-interested powers want to avoid any responsibility for GW so they practice criminal deceit in order to get dumbheads like yourselves to back them. They don't care what happens to the world they just want money. What we are seeing here are the spoiled powers that be using the old political tactics of willing something to be because they want it that way. But they've made a fatal mistake with Gaia. Gaia doesn't play.

I've taken a new attitude on all this. If Americans want to line up on the denial side of this then let Gaia "bring it on". Fuck 'em. America isn't an exception to reality.

Jet, what is manking doing to recreate the global warming on Mars? Can the additional energy being emitted by the contribute to a warming of the planet? If consensus makes fact then would you be a global roundness denier?

If the planet keeps warming we will eventually get back to humans being able to live on Greenland by growing crops.
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:22 PM
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There is a problem with global warming. Climatologist and Meteorologist don't buy into it. In fact the founder of the Weather Channel - John Coleman - says that global warming is a farce and he gives historical data to back up his claim. Not recent psudo science.

Remember up until around 1979 or 1980 the global warming crowd were screaming if we kept up our polluting ways, it would end up cooling the planet down so much. In fact there was a Dr. Sues sort of cartoon they showed in school that showed how people would be forced to stay in their homes pumping out more pollution in order to stay warm because it would get so cold. Now, all of a sudden, since the super cold temps didn't happen, we now have the same people saying we are gonna burn up if we don't change.

Then again, they found out the planet is NOT heating up at all, so now its more like Global Climate Change. As if the planet has never had unstable weather before in its entire history. So no matter what happens, it will be man's fault for weather changes no matter what history has proven.
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:11 PM
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Re: Gasoline prices have more than tripled at the pump since Bush took office. any defense, anyone? Quote

Bush is doing his job. He has done exactly what he was appointed to do...


case in point:
In 2005 Exxon Mobil recorded the biggest corporate profits in history...

only to break their own record in 2006 by again recording the largest gross and net profits in the history of the world!

In 2006 Exxon Mobil posted gross profits of 377 BILLION (more than most countries!) and a net profit of 39.5 BILLION.

Bush is an oil man and his #1 duty is to serve the interests of big corporations, especially BIG OIL.

He has done his job


Actually, most of the increase occurred since the democrats took over the legislature. For the first six years of the Bush Administration prices were remarkably stable. But hey, why let facts stand in the way of a good Bush bashing.
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Nancy Pelosi chanted "Veto and Drill", "Veto and Drill" in caricaturing the threatened presidential veto of windfall oil company taxes and desire to drill in ANWR and elsewhere. But all that might sound, in fact, good to most Americans. With the world's largest reserves of coal, after creating the nuclear power industry ex nihilo, and with billions of oil still under our soil and waters, it makes no sense to produce less energy while blaming and taxing those who produce what we have, rather than drilling, digging, and saving, as we find ways to transition to the alternate energies. The problem is not just oil, but importing oil at $120 a barrel that is bankrupting us as much as it is enriching the wrong people.

This would seem to be an explosive campaign issue (if the candidates disagreed), especially if someone could offer a rough estimate of how many billion barrels of oil are in no-go areas, times them by $120 a barrel, and then compute how many trillions in national wealth we leave untouched while we pay our enemies for the commensurate alternative. I could accept the argument that it will take years to get the oil out of Alaska, the coasts, or other federal lands and therefore is not worth it (the classic argument for stasis), if we could be convinced it will not take even a greater amount of time to get solar and wind technology cheap and efficient enough to produce the bulk of our energy needs.
Well here's a start for Victor-- If we are importing 5,000,000,000 barrels of oil each year due to Democratic politics (from the above chart produced back in 2006)-- We are paying the oil producing regimes $600,000,000,000 this year for oil.

But for some reason Democrats think taxing oil companies will fix this problem?
That is a death wish for America.

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Old 05-08-2008, 02:44 PM
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Actually, most of the increase occurred since the democrats took over the legislature. For the first six years of the Bush Administration prices were remarkably stable. But hey, why let facts stand in the way of a good Bush bashing.
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Nancy Pelosi chanted "Veto and Drill", "Veto and Drill" in caricaturing the threatened presidential veto of windfall oil company taxes and desire to drill in ANWR and elsewhere. But all that might sound, in fact, good to most Americans. With the world's largest reserves of coal, after creating the nuclear power industry ex nihilo, and with billions of oil still under our soil and waters, it makes no sense to produce less energy while blaming and taxing those who produce what we have, rather than drilling, digging, and saving, as we find ways to transition to the alternate energies. The problem is not just oil, but importing oil at $120 a barrel that is bankrupting us as much as it is enriching the wrong people.

This would seem to be an explosive campaign issue (if the candidates disagreed), especially if someone could offer a rough estimate of how many billion barrels of oil are in no-go areas, times them by $120 a barrel, and then compute how many trillions in national wealth we leave untouched while we pay our enemies for the commensurate alternative. I could accept the argument that it will take years to get the oil out of Alaska, the coasts, or other federal lands and therefore is not worth it (the classic argument for stasis), if we could be convinced it will not take even a greater amount of time to get solar and wind technology cheap and efficient enough to produce the bulk of our energy needs.
Well here's a start for Victor-- If we are importing 5,000,000,000 barrels of oil each year due to Democratic politics (from the above chart produced back in 2006)-- We are paying the oil producing regimes $600,000,000,000 this year for oil.

But for some reason Democrats think taxing oil companies will fix this problem?
That is a death wish for America.

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The Democrats know it will not fix anything. The Democrats also realize their followers will not stop to think about the long term consequences of actions taken to try to look like they are working on energy costs.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:07 AM
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Coleman is the owner of a cable TV channel in a Red(neck) state that has experienced record sprawl that has stimulated businesses like his. He caters to the Bush crowd because those are the people he deals with on a marketing level. He's not a good person to ask about GW.

But this is just stupid because these same old tired propaganda canards are just in plain flat out obvious denial of the melting that is curently well-documented in the Arctic and Greenland.

You creeps are obviously chanting to yourselves while ignoring everything else that doesn't work for your mob politics. You and your pathetic propaganda have no credibility.
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Any comment on your being completely wrong about gas prices under Bush?
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