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04-27-2008, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDayYourDignityDied
OK, my point was a little more complicated obviously lol.
This isn't Die hard 5. In the real world you don't just "ONE round to the head, or spine".
Fuck me, no wonder the countries going to shit with brain surgeons like you running around loose.
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Then perhaps son you, and them, should learn to shoot. I have been shooting for 45 years, and a shooting instructor for 25.
My girlfriends 12 year old daughter is 90 pounds and she can 'double tap,' two quick rounds to the same spot, and 'Mozambique drill,' two shots to the chest, followed by one to the head, in less than three seconds.
Sorry neither you, nor the NYC cops, are smart enough, strong enough, nor talanted enough, to grasp the smple functions as this child did. Positive side is that at least you acknoledge your limitations. 
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04-27-2008, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Still Dizzy
Then perhaps son you, and them, should learn to shoot. I have been shooting for 45 years, and a shooting instructor for 25.
My girlfriends 12 year old daughter is 90 pounds and she can 'double tap,' two quick rounds to the same spot, and 'Mozambique drill,' two shots to the chest, followed by one to the head, in less than three seconds.
Sorry neither you, nor the NYC cops, are smart enough, strong enough, nor talanted enough, to grasp the smple functions as this child did. Positive side is that at least you acknoledge your limitations. 
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It's a shame you didn't spend 45 years thinking, then I wouldn't have to point out that shooting at the range, and shooting in what was believed to be a life and death situation, with a suspected armed perp, moving target, at night, and with several other people around is slightly different.
What troubles me most about this conversation is your age relative to your stupidity, and that you are in close proximity to a child.
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04-27-2008, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDayYourDignityDied
It's a shame you didn't spend 45 years thinking, then I wouldn't have to point out that shooting at the range, and shooting in what was believed to be a life and death situation, with a suspected armed perp, moving target, at night, and with several other people around is slightly different.
What troubles me most about this conversation is your age relative to your stupidity, and that you are in close proximity to a child.
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Actually what is a shame is your ADMITTED shortcomings in regard to firearms, of which 100,000,000-125,000,000 Americans own.
Training just takes some basic motor skills, and the ability to grasp a simple concept. I do feel sorry for you that you find those two simple tasks so difficult to grasp.
Oh well. Guess someone has to sit in front of a machine seperating the red beans, from the green beans. Stick with it. Obviously you found something suitable for you talents. 
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04-27-2008, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Still Dizzy
Actually what is a shame is your ADMITTED shortcomings in regard to firearms, of which 100,000,000-125,000,000 Americans own.
Training just takes some basic motor skills, and the ability to grasp a simple concept. I do feel sorry for you that you find those two simple tasks so difficult to grasp.
Oh well. Guess someone has to sit in front of a machine seperating the red beans, from the green beans. Stick with it. Obviously you found something suitable for you talents. 
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See, now I just think you're trolling, there's no way someone can be that stupid accidentally. Unless you live near Chernobyl.
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04-27-2008, 10:55 PM
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In the NY Times OpEd today a retired NY cop admitted it was against department guidelines to shoot at someone in a car. Even if the the car was moving towards the cop.
In case anyone hasn't realized it the government is sending a message. It can get away with murder and you have to take it. This is fascism pure and simple.
What kills me about this case is all the gloating about how good a call it was by the judge. This was a rotten call based on authoritative corruption. The real cause here is cops not wanting to be subjected to their own draconian punishments. They murdered an unarmed man. That's all there is to it.
The wolves are being allowed to judge their own actions in the hen house.
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05-07-2008, 04:43 PM
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Sharpton Arrested In Citywide 'Slowdown' Protests
wcbstv.com - Sharpton Arrested In Citywide 'Slowdown' Protests
"The acts of civil disobedience are designed to get the attention of local and federal officials who have the power to pick up where Judge Arthur Cooperman's verdict left off. Protesters want the acquitted NYPD officers -- Michael Oliver, Gescard Isnora, and Marc Cooper -- to face additional sanctions."
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05-08-2008, 11:34 AM
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Cops are -good or bad- are your fault. We have made cops some sort of super human American. They have more rights than you do. If you don't believe me, try telling a cop to fuck off after he has told you to "move on". You will get arrested for disobeying a police officer. Kid you not. Somehow, the person with the badge gets to deny you your constitutional rights.
Second, being a minority I have dealt with the police on a number of occasions. I can tell you that even in small town America where there is no crime problem, those who are not white get singled out. And when you can prove you are not a criminal those cops tend to get upset with you. And if you have something to do with law enforcement or public safety other than being a cop or firefighter, you are yelled at for telling them such information.
We have given cops too much freedom over our own. This verdict will just serve to let other cops on the edge mistreat the very people they are supposed to protect.
Then again what is the first thing most of us say when we see something we don't like going on? "Call the cops." Instead of handling the situation yourself, (if it is not life threatening) we stand back and let a small group of men and women rule over us. And then when the ruler is let go for being cruel or mean to us, then and only then do we cry foul not realizing we gave them the power to be cruel in the first place.
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05-08-2008, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Neo Con Hardy
This should be a lesson to all the swaggering bad ass dudes out there, don't play games on a big city street at 4:00 AM with the cops.
If a Cop says "Halt" all you have to do is Halt, that one little thing may save your life.
This guy Bell wasn't very "street smart", now all the people that loved him have to pay the price of his "arrogance". your full of it, there paying the price for some shitty paranoid cops, what an asshole u are?
Indeed a tragedy.
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I agree and another example of why there should be less cops that are better trained
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05-08-2008, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by oceanbreeze
Sharpton Arrested In Citywide 'Slowdown' Protests
wcbstv.com - Sharpton Arrested In Citywide 'Slowdown' Protests
"The acts of civil disobedience are designed to get the attention of local and federal officials who have the power to pick up where Judge Arthur Cooperman's verdict left off. Protesters want the acquitted NYPD officers -- Michael Oliver, Gescard Isnora, and Marc Cooper -- to face additional sanctions."
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Break the law to avert legal justice based on skin color?
Damn, that is the sick hatred Obama and his wife are spreading in America. 
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05-08-2008, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDayYourDignityDied
See, now I just think you're trolling, there's no way someone can be that stupid accidentally. Unless you live near Chernobyl.
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Why not? You do it, what, 40? 50? posts a day?
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