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Old 05-07-2008, 03:01 PM
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saying that democrats support illegal immigration through this article is laughable, because anyone with there head out of the sand understands what
illegal labor does for profit margins in buisness, and profit margin is the spine of the republican agenda, just look at the meat packing industry, heavily lobbied for in D.C. and who do you think these lobbyist target? business friendly
republicans that are willing to look the other way as illegals are shuffled through the back door, and on the legislative side dismantle the inspection and standards set forth by FDA, EPA. The illegal immigration only becomes an issue to the republicans when crime and the healthcare system is affected.
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Ok, Class is now in session.
It is the Union's duty to protect all workers (legal or not).Their job is to protect every worker from being abused from their employers.The problem of illegal immigration is not with the Unions,its with the employers!
If you really want to do something about illegal immigration(like i do) we should be punishing the employers who bring them here!
Our government gives large corporations tax breaks to keep the jobs in this country(which would not be a problem if we would get rid of these insane(so-called)free trade polices).They get the tax breaks and then go out and hire illegals to do the work for less than we would.It is a win-win situation for the corporations and a loose-loose situation for the American Working Middle Class.
The government has got to enforce immigration laws AND fine and punish ALL of these corporations who break the laws!
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Ok, Class is now in session.
It is the Union's duty to protect all workers (legal or not).!
and who protect's the workers from the Union's?
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what is your point? the Unions are here to protect the Middle Calss
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August 29th, 2004 9:38 pm
Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican

by John Gray

Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn’t think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

Its noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republican’s would still be sitting in the dark)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.

He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, “We don’t need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have”.
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what is your point? the Unions are here to protect the Middle Calss
Ha ha hahahahahaahahahahah ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I almost peed in my pant's
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Don't get me wrong Unions were good like 60 years ago, they out lived there usefullness, there Dinosaur's and do way more harm then good.

I saw this to be interesting:

Political Calculations: Union Membership Trends in the U.S. Private Sector

If Union's are so good why does there numbers continue to decline?

In 1948 the precentage of the work force that were Union's were 31.8%
in 2004 the percentage was 12.5%
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Don't get me wrong Unions were good like 60 years ago, they out lived there usefullness, there Dinosaur's and do way more harm then good.

I saw this to be interesting:

Political Calculations: Union Membership Trends in the U.S. Private Sector

If Union's are so good why does there numbers continue to decline?

In 1948 the precentage of the work force that were Union's were 31.8%
in 2004 the percentage was 12.5%
no your right we should rely on private industry for livable wages and health insurance , ya like that would ever happen without organized labor, why do you think wal mart and the fast food industry fight organization? so they can continue to keep there workers desperate and poor, because it is cheaper to rehire and retrain new workers then to keep workers around with pay increase and benefits, unions have done a great service to the working classes and continue to this day.
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