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04-03-2008, 08:57 PM
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Cord, I can see your logic but I really think that he will pick someone other than Lott.
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Odds are he will... but my money is still on Lott. Let's face it... no matter who McCain picks, he's never going to carry New York or California. And with the age issue, he's not going to want to run with someone who looks like his nephew. Plus, odds are he's not going to run for a second term, so he's not going to want someone who spends his term undercutting him and preparing their own run for the Presidency.
McCain-Lott would be the most experienced, most capable ticket in the history of American politics. By having Lott as Vice President, McCain could let him handle domestic policy and allow himself a free hand on foreign policy, where he's more comfortable in the first place.
There's also the ugly, inside baseball political nitty gritty side... if Lott is on the ticket and Obama is the Democratic nominee, you just know the Democrats will bring up the race issue. But that's a booby trap. The more race becomes an issue in the election, the more it will hurt Obama. Politics ain't pretty, but there it is.
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04-03-2008, 09:27 PM
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Maybe McCain can does what he does best and sell out his principles and bring a liberal on board. I can just see the McCain/Clinton or McCain/Obama ticket now.
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04-04-2008, 12:39 AM
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I think McCain's best pick would be Trent Lott. With Lott on the ticket, he'd shore up the conservative base, especially in the South. Not only that, but Lott has extensive experience in both Houses of Congress - I think the ideal role for a Vice President is as legislator-in-chief - someone who will shepherd the Administration's legislative agenda through Congress, and there's no one better for that in either party than Senator Lott. Additionally, Lott has charisma - he can handle himself in a debate - but not too much of it... not too many people will think the ticket is upside down if he's the Vice Presidential nominee. Plus, he's probably not going to fritter away his time as Vice President getting ready for a run at the top job.
Of course, on the con side, there's the whole issue of Strom Thurmond's retirement and the speech which Lott made - which some people incorrectly viewed as racist. The Democrats could probably try to make some hay out of it, but I think that could backfire on them if they made too much out of it.
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I don't think so. First of all, I don't think he needs all that much help in the South. Second of all, I think a Governor would be a better choice. Another Congressman on the ticket and that is all that many more votes which have to be defended, plus a Governor might be able to help him carry a state. Charlie Crist should be able to help McCain greatly in Florida and maybe Pawlenty can steal Minnesota away from the Democrats.
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04-04-2008, 03:51 AM
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I don't think so. First of all, I don't think he needs all that much help in the South. Second of all, I think a Governor would be a better choice. Another Congressman on the ticket and that is all that many more votes which have to be defended, plus a Governor might be able to help him carry a state. Charlie Crist should be able to help McCain greatly in Florida and maybe Pawlenty can steal Minnesota away from the Democrats.
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What does a Governor bring to the office, though? Odds are they won't have either the connections to steer legislation through Congress or the experience to contribute much to foreign policy. About the only asset a Governor brings to the table is administrative leadership, but where is a Vice President going to get a chance to exercise that? Governors like Pawlenty or Crist would be more suitable Cabinet secretaries. If I were a Governor, I sure as hell wouldn't want to become Vice President - it'd be like a living death.
Besides, let's get real here... how often does a Vice Presidential nominee actually win votes for a ticket? In practical terms, about the best you can hope for from a Vice Presidential nominee is that they don't lose votes for your ticket. McCain needs to pick an ironclad conservative for his VP - anything else will cost him dearly with the Republican base. Having Lott on the ticket won't win him any states... but it won't lose him any either.
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04-04-2008, 07:12 AM
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McCain will pick whoever his handlers tell him to pick! This is what happens when you have a Manchurian candidate running for the highest office in the land.
You Conservatives are fooling yourselves if you think or believe McCain is his own man.
The Neo-Con Nazi nut jobs and thugs who took over the Republican party will ensure the GOP W.H. will be run from behind closed doors.....from the likes of Bush, Cheney, and Projects for a New Century.
Remember my fellow Repubs. its all about war and Disaster Capitalism unless America can find a way to get off the Neo Con Republican Bullet Train!!!
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04-04-2008, 09:35 AM
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McCain will pick whoever his handlers tell him to pick! This is what happens when you have a Manchurian candidate running for the highest office in the land.
You Conservatives are fooling yourselves if you think or believe McCain is his own man.
The Neo-Con Nazi nut jobs and thugs who took over the Republican party will ensure the GOP W.H. will be run from behind closed doors.....from the likes of Bush, Cheney, and Projects for a New Century.
Remember my fellow Repubs. its all about war and Disaster Capitalism unless America can find a way to get off the Neo Con Republican Bullet Train!!!
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Welcome to the party pal. We conservatives have been saying McCain was not our candidate as long as there has been a McCain in this race. McCain approached John Kerry about being his running mate in 2004. McCain is constantly polling with the Democratics and has even talked to them about changing parties. So why is the liberal John McCain the Republican candidate? The media giving such glowing coverage of McCain and liberals crossing over to vote for him. The media in particular would not air stories about genuine conservatives in order to push liberals like McCain, Rudy, and the Huckster Huckabee.
The problem you will have in the general election Rasta is that McCain IS a liberal and should be the Democratic candidate. McCain is everything that Obama claims to be, he is a proven uniter whereas Obama is a proven divider. The media chose McCain to run for the Republicans, the media has chosen Obama to be president. Either way the country looses. If McCain picks up Clinton as his running mate that would give him the clout to win New York and other large states. Especially Florida and Michigan which have been disenfranchised by the DNC.
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04-04-2008, 02:33 PM
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Lott is not a good choice. He was tainted by the lefties over his remark at Thurmonds retirement.
McCain will go with a fresh face. Its gonna be Charle Crist.
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04-04-2008, 03:33 PM
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Lott is not a good choice. He was tainted by the lefties over his remark at Thurmonds retirement.
McCain will go with a fresh face. Its gonna be Charle Crist.
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Ahhh... But it wasn't so much the left that forced Lott out - it was the Bush Administration who undercut him. They wanted Frist as Majority Leader and they jumped on the opportunity to force Lott out. Naming Lott as VP would be another way for McCain to stick his thumb in Bush's eye and assert his independence from an unpopular administration, even if it is his own party's.
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