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Old 04-01-2008, 07:26 PM
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So when does Congress get grilled for it's greediness? Look beyond the price of fuel at the pumps, and consider this; If Congress is so damned concerned with the huge profit to "Big Oil", then why don't Congress drop their taxes per gallon. If the profits to the companies are too big. Then considering who does what in the process to get the fuel to the pumps, it seems the companies do more to warrant their earnings compare to govt. (when all they do is regulate and control)

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So when does Congress get grilled for it's greediness? Look beyond the price of fuel at the pumps, and consider this; If Congress is so damned concerned with the huge profit to "Big Oil", then why don't Congress drop their taxes per gallon. If the profits to the companies are too big. Then considering who does what in the process to get the fuel to the pumps, it seems the companies do more to warrant their earnings compare to govt. (when all they do is regulate and control)

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Our federal government make more money off a gal of gas than the oil company does. But those crying about high prices don't realize it.
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So when does Congress get grilled for it's greediness? Look beyond the price of fuel at the pumps, and consider this; If Congress is so damned concerned with the huge profit to "Big Oil", then why don't Congress drop their taxes per gallon. If the profits to the companies are too big. Then considering who does what in the process to get the fuel to the pumps, it seems the companies do more to warrant their earnings compare to govt. (when all they do is regulate and control)

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If these oil future traders and Hedge Fund Managers were asked the proper questions, we would find out the truth.
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>>>Yeah, sure, let's look beyond the price of fuel at the pumps. Let's look at the fact that Cheney was pushing for $4 gas BEFORE he appointed himself VP. Let's look at the maps Cheney left in his wastebasket during his taks force meetings. Let's look at the fact that profits are up a billion percent with no reduction in supply (except the supply Cheney cut us out of by invading Iraq).
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>>>Yeah, sure, let's look beyond the price of fuel at the pumps. Let's look at the fact that Cheney was pushing for $4 gas BEFORE he appointed himself VP. Let's look at the maps Cheney left in his wastebasket during his taks force meetings. Let's look at the fact that profits are up a billion percent with no reduction in supply (except the supply Cheney cut us out of by invading Iraq).
Look as a Californian I pay more for my gas than do you. I don't like it, but you need to get a life. This blame Cheney, this, Bush that is getting tiresome, and beyond silly.

This isn't the first time the govt has taken on Big Oil, it's just their turn, and plays to dummies like you. The govt hated the steel industry, and the Steel plants are empty shells in Youngstown, and Pitts. PA. They hate the Car business, and look at Detroit today, it's a suburb of Islamabad. They hate Big Tobacco.

Did it ever occur to you every time this govt steps into to save us from the "evil profiteers of industry", prices never go down, and regulations go up? Never is the problem solved, it just gets worser, and worser.

And they sit there sitting in judgment of this industry, and never do they reign in taxes, or reduce their size, and hold on power. In fact while they are hand wringing with the "hedge fund loans", they fail to mention it was they (Congress) that demanded the relaxing of home loans so as to assist the "poooor". Now that it has exploded, imploded, and tanking, they walk away from their role, and blame the greedy banks.

And while this goes on increased fuel costs, bailing out the housing industry, the Congress creates another budget, and the EARMARKS increase, and it becomes hard to discern what is bigger their pork, or the PIGS they are in the creation of pork.

Meanwhile they have people like you Ole George, as useful idiots that buy into the greed as it is one sided.

I am not suggesting "Big Oil" is faultless, I am stating that it didn't begin with them, and doesn't end with Cheney.
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>>>Yeah, sure, let's look beyond the price of fuel at the pumps. Let's look at the fact that Cheney was pushing for $4 gas BEFORE he appointed himself VP. Let's look at the maps Cheney left in his wastebasket during his taks force meetings. Let's look at the fact that profits are up a billion percent with no reduction in supply (except the supply Cheney cut us out of by invading Iraq).
Cheney cut us out of oil? Hold on a second. He was the CEO of Halliburton. I thought he started the war to get the oil? Dang! The traitor.
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Look as a Californian I pay more for my gas than do you. I don't like it, but you need to get a life. This blame Cheney, this, Bush that is getting tiresome, and beyond silly.

This isn't the first time the govt has taken on Big Oil, it's just their turn, and plays to dummies like you. The govt hated the steel industry, and the Steel plants are empty shells in Youngstown, and Pitts. PA. They hate the Car business, and look at Detroit today, it's a suburb of Islamabad. They hate Big Tobacco.

Did it ever occur to you every time this govt steps into to save us from the "evil profiteers of industry", prices never go down, and regulations go up? Never is the problem solved, it just gets worser, and worser.

And they sit there sitting in judgment of this industry, and never do they reign in taxes, or reduce their size, and hold on power. In fact while they are hand wringing with the "hedge fund loans", they fail to mention it was they (Congress) that demanded the relaxing of home loans so as to assist the "poooor". Now that it has exploded, imploded, and tanking, they walk away from their role, and blame the greedy banks.

And while this goes on increased fuel costs, bailing out the housing industry, the Congress creates another budget, and the EARMARKS increase, and it becomes hard to discern what is bigger their pork, or the PIGS they are in the creation of pork.

Meanwhile they have people like you Ole George, as useful idiots that buy into the greed as it is one sided.

I am not suggesting "Big Oil" is faultless, I am stating that it didn't begin with them, and doesn't end with Cheney.
Welcome to the New World Order. Congress didn't hate those industries. But the corporate banksters who bankrolled their campaigns did. Do your homework, America's manufacturing base was destroyed for a reason. Further more, you would have to be the most naive person on the planet not to realize that Bush, Cheney, and all their "buddies" in the oil/defense industry, both American, and Saudi are all making a killing right now. They "de-stabalize" Iraq, then use the war as a means to justify gouging the shit out of the consumer.

Q: When was the last time you saw an actual shortage of fuel reported somewhere in the US?
A: You haven't. There is no shortage of fuel. They have all the gas you want, as long as you're willing to pay through the nose for it.

Q: Is there a war in Saudi Arabi?
A: NO. In fact Saudi Arabia accounts for only 11.2% of America's oil imports, while Iraq is at 3.9%. Yet somehow we the consumer are being led to believe that high cost of fuel is somehow tied to the war. It is not. The truth is the oil industry on the whole has significantly cut back supply over the last five years. Nearly doubling the price per gallon, globally speaking, in less than a decade. IOW Any society that uses petroleum in their means of transportation has been enslaved by the oil industry.

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And they sit there sitting in judgment of this industry, and never do they reign in taxes, or reduce their size, and hold on power. In fact while they are hand wringing with the "hedge fund loans", they fail to mention it was they (Congress) that demanded the relaxing of home loans so as to assist the "poooor". Now that it has exploded, imploded, and tanking, they walk away from their role, and blame the greedy banks.
BTW- It was the Fed who made loaning to "sub-prime" lenders mandatory. If you you were a bank owner in the late 80's early 90's and you wanted to borrow money from the Fed. You had to agree to their stipulations regarding the sub-prime market. Again, while Congress enacted "fair lending" and "fair housing" acts. It was, in fact, the Fed in coordination with the FHA, and HUD who enforced the rules.
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If we deport the over 12 million illegals I wonder how much that would cut demand and lower the gasoline prices.
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So when does Congress get grilled for it's greediness? Look beyond the price of fuel at the pumps, and consider this; If Congress is so damned concerned with the huge profit to "Big Oil", then why don't Congress drop their taxes per gallon. If the profits to the companies are too big. Then considering who does what in the process to get the fuel to the pumps, it seems the companies do more to warrant their earnings compare to govt. (when all they do is regulate and control)

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Comedy at its finest wasnt it? As the profit police (democrat party) bitches and moans at big oil and their evil 40 Billion in profits....and yet the government never mentions the 100 Billion in taxes that they recieve from Evil Big Oil--who gets that 100 Billion from us.
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