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Old 03-31-2008, 11:13 AM
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OK, I have not read so much garbage and BULLSHIT from many of you as I have in this thread. Some of you call yourself "enlightened" HA, I think you turned off the light switch in your brains.

There is no new war or 30 year war going on between white and black. Hell if you want to call it a war it has been going on since the 1700's when the slave trade began in earnest.

The problem with my people (blacks) is that they have held their hands out too much over the past 30 or 40 years looking for payback from whites. We have not learned that that will not happen.

Instead, Blacks should learn what my other people (Native Americans) have done. They have learned how to play by the white mans rules and win. We call them Casino's. Some of the biggest on the planet are owned my Native American Tribes.

Now what blacks can do is find out what the white man wants and will spend his money on and then provide it within the inner cities of America. When you provide the white man with what he wants and is willing to pay for, then they tend to leave you alone and not hate you so much. White America loves its casinos. They don't target or hate Native Americans, they spend their money on poker chips and cigarettes instead and show their love that way.

Blacks have the same thing available to them. Hell, there seems to be no limit to the amount of culture that whites will try and take from the black. I'm talking everything from soul food to music to clothing.

Oh wait, I guess there are some blacks who are taking advantage of the white man after all. Sean "Diddy" Combs, Jay-Z, Nelli, 50 Cent. Hmm seems like they are building black empires based on selling the white man what he wants. No fighting going on there. In fact there is nothing but love from the white man for these folks.

Lesson learned.
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Old 03-31-2008, 11:18 AM
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Are you trying to say fucking Mexicans were here before Whites and that they own America?

You Mexicans should try completing High School, so you know something about history. Fuck you and your Pope.
Are you saying Mexicans were not here in America before "White Man"?
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Old 03-31-2008, 11:22 AM
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Are you saying Mexicans were not here in America before "White Man"?
They were not called mexicans they were called American Indians and to be blunt and risk all kinds of spears and daggers let me add that the Mexican is heavily influenced by the Spanish. In fact all of south America is so heavily influenced by the Spanish you could say they are a new race.

Not a bad thing. Just remember, the Native peoples did arrive here long before anyone else. It is even speculated that the Egyptians made the Atlantic trip. But it doesn't really matter who was here first or second or third, does
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Old 03-31-2008, 11:26 AM
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Sorry...

They were Mexican.
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Old 03-31-2008, 11:31 AM
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Sorry...

They were Mexican.
So what you are saying is that Mexico has been around for some 10,000 plus years as a country?

Are you for real?

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Old 03-31-2008, 11:35 AM
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LOL!

Who was the first white man to cross the Sierra Nevada, and in what year?

Who lived in california when he arrived?
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Old 03-31-2008, 11:38 AM
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So that means that Native Americans were not really here or they are not people? Or are they not real people until the Spanish and the rest of Europe started "mating" with them?
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Old 03-31-2008, 11:43 AM
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Yer an Idiot, and have no brains.

Sorry.
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Old 03-31-2008, 11:46 AM
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All you guys can do is make little condescending comments because you know you cannot win a debate based on reality. You rely on your guns, your racism and the stupidity of your sheep who watch FOX news instead. Yes you have power. Do you have an argument that will convince the world not to come together against you? No.

I think you are very ignorant as to which group is being fooled. When you say "you guys"...please tell me who it is that you are "prejudging" into a group. For someone who is not racist you sure generalize A LOT. I am more then happy to debate you....what would you like to debate?Bombs cant solve everything.

The constitution is not intact when the government can spy on your phone calls, track everything you do, capture and imprison you without charge or trial simply for talking differently that they want you too. The Patriot act allows this. I could be deemed a terrorist right now for having views that conflict with the current establishment. It opens the door for possible political opponnents to be spied on 24 hours a day and even imprisoned. That is not the constitution as we knew it.
1st off, when my life is at risk because of other countries who would love nothing more then to destroy us, I have no problem with the government doing whatever necessary to make sure that what happened on 9/11 (thanks to Clinton)..does not happen again. Although I think we have a right to privacy, which I doubt highly will be invaded to the level you have been brainwashed into believing, I gladly leave my life an open book.......I have nothing to hide, nor or my conversations that steamy that I am afraid of what will be heard.
As far as you being deemed a terrorist and being imprisioned for your views....I think your paranoia is getting the best of you. They will not imprison you for being a Liberal Democrate... Ted Kennedy and the Clinton's should be proof enough. And as far as I am concerned...if you are being spied on 24 hours a day, I imagine there is just cause for it.....and I would support it.
PS...the constitution is a bit more like swiss cheese Thanks to the Liberals...not the Conservatives who prefer to CONSERVE IT....
You have been brainwashed by the Democratic Party.........
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Israel promises to use "Baby Nukes" on Iran..Honest, we do | Wake Up From Your Slumber

Bush Still Spinning Nukes in Iran

Bush/Cheney/jews plan to show Iran that nukes are bad stuff:

The Iran Plans: jewish controlled media says:

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Would President Bush go to war to stop Tehran from getting the bomb?
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Iran; Nuclear Weapons; Atomic Bomb; International Atomic Energy Agency (I.A.E.A.); Ahmadinejad, Mahmoud; Clawson, Patrick; Bush, George W. (Pres.) (43rd) The Bush Administration, while publicly advocating diplomacy in order to stop Iran from pursuing a nuclear weapon, has increased clandestine activities inside Iran and intensified planning for a possible major air attack. Current and former American military and intelligence officials said that Air Force planning groups are drawing up lists of targets, and teams of American combat troops have been ordered into Iran, under cover, to collect targeting data and to establish contact with anti-government ethnic-minority groups. The officials say that President Bush is determined to deny the Iranian regime the opportunity to begin a pilot program, planned for this spring, to enrich uranium.

American and European intelligence agencies, and the International Atomic Energy Agency (I.A.E.A.), agree that Iran is intent on developing the capability to produce nuclear weapons. But there are widely differing estimates of how long that will take, and whether diplomacy, sanctions, or military action is the best way to prevent it. Iran insists that its research is for peaceful use only, in keeping with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, and that it will not be delayed or deterred.

There is a growing conviction among members of the United States military, and in the international community, that President Bush’s ultimate goal in the nuclear confrontation with Iran is regime change. Iran’s President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has challenged the reality of the Holocaust and said that Israel must be “wiped off the map.” Bush and others in the White House view him as a potential Adolf Hitler, a former senior intelligence official said. “That’s the name they’re using. They say, ‘Will Iran get a strategic weapon and threaten another world war?’ ”

A government consultant with close ties to the civilian leadership in the Pentagon said that Bush was “absolutely convinced that Iran is going to get the bomb” if it is not stopped. He said that the President believes that he must do “what no Democrat or Republican, if elected in the future, would have the courage to do,” and “that saving Iran is going to be his legacy.”

One former defense official, who still deals with sensitive issues for the Bush Administration, told me that the military planning was premised on a belief that “a sustained bombing campaign in Iran will humiliate the religious leadership and lead the public to rise up and overthrow the government.” He added, “I was shocked when I heard it, and asked myself, ‘What are they smoking?’ ”

The rationale for regime change was articulated in early March by Patrick Clawson, an Iran expert who is the deputy director for research at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy and who has been a supporter of President Bush. “So long as Iran has an Islamic republic, it will have a nuclear-weapons program, at least clandestinely,” Clawson told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on March 2nd. “The key issue, therefore, is: How long will the present Iranian regime last?”

When I spoke to Clawson, he emphasized that “this Administration is putting a lot of effort into diplomacy.” However, he added, Iran had no choice other than to accede to America’s demands or face a military attack. Clawson said that he fears that Ahmadinejad “sees the West as wimps and thinks we will eventually cave in. We have to be ready to deal with Iran if the crisis escalates.” Clawson said that he would prefer to rely on sabotage and other clandestine activities, such as “industrial accidents.” But, he said, it would be prudent to prepare for a wider war, “given the way the Iranians are acting. This is not like planning to invade Quebec.”


from the issuecartoon banke-mail thisOne military planner told me that White House criticisms of Iran and the high tempo of planning and clandestine activities amount to a campaign of “coercion” aimed at Iran. “You have to be ready to go, and we’ll see how they respond,” the officer said. “You have to really show a threat in order to get Ahmadinejad to back down.” He added, “People think Bush has been focussed on Saddam Hussein since 9/11,” but, “in my view, if you had to name one nation that was his focus all the way along, it was Iran.” (In response to detailed requests for comment, the White House said that it would not comment on military planning but added, “As the President has indicated, we are pursuing a diplomatic solution”; the Defense Department also said that Iran was being dealt with through “diplomatic channels” but wouldn’t elaborate on that; the C.I.A. said that there were “inaccuracies” in this account but would not specify them.)

“This is much more than a nuclear issue,” one high-ranking diplomat told me in Vienna. “That’s just a rallying point, and there is still time to fix it. But the Administration believes it cannot be fixed unless they control the hearts and minds of Iran. The real issue is who is going to control the Middle East and its oil in the next ten years.”

A senior Pentagon adviser on the war on terror expressed a similar view. “This White House believes that the only way to solve the problem is to change the power structure in Iran, and that means war,” he said. The danger, he said, was that “it also reinforces the belief inside Iran that the only way to defend the country is to have a nuclear capability.” A military conflict that destabilized the region could also increase the risk of terror: “Hezbollah comes into play,” the adviser said, referring to the terror group that is considered one of the world’s most successful, and which is now a Lebanese political party with strong ties to Iran. “And here comes Al Qaeda.”
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