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Old 01-14-2008, 05:56 PM
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Well, love him or hate him, he's the only chance we've got to win back our country. That's a fact, since the others R&D, are against the citizens of this country, while fully supporting Israel. Go figure........
No he is not the only, last, best hope for anything. There are others out there who have yet to pounce onto the national scene who would be better suited to be the messiah of our nation than Ron Paul.
Not to mention the fact that if Paul's supporters didn't make him out to be so damned perfect he might be getting farther than he has.
You also have to take back the kids. Its education and the young that direct a nation. Look at todays young adults. They were taught that the government is their salvation. So naturally they are going to vote for idiots who will promise and give them anything they don't have to work for.
Teach your kids in the ways of the Founding Fathers and you wont need a savior, because everyone will understand free is never free.
But Ron Paul is not the proper spokes person for our cause.
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Old 01-14-2008, 05:59 PM
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If there's another out there, running now, name them.

You make some good points about the Dept of Ed. Except, you overlook the fact that western civilization is demonized in our schools today.
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:25 PM
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Hmm, I thought I was on point until you got off track. But be that as it may...
I also find it fascinating that no matter what is proven about Ron Paul, you people seem to just brush it off and still think of him as the Messiah. Sort of like when a major Black candidate is proven to be not so perfect, blacks will rally around him and blame every one around them.
Ron Paul has been proven to be anything less but the messiah for the American Constitution. But you and those over zealous supporters will not stop supporting him even if he is proven to be a murderer. Ron Paul is not the ideal candidate for a cause which is very noble and a cause in which I fully support. A return to the Constitution. But you hold Ron Paul up higher than the cause which is why you personally attack me and everyone else who is for the Constitution but not for Paul.
Wrong again Rod- Both migueld and myself have recently expressed varying degrees of concern , disappointment , anger , or frustration with the Paul campaign. Very few support him blindly. BUT , that doesn't change the fact that he is the best candidate with the best platform to move the leviathan backwards. EVERY other candidate is more of the same-and after all is said and done , maybe he turns out to be just another ruse, and we really are powerless , but how can you not at least try?

When you show me he has actually committed wrongdoing, or personally said the things attributed to his newsletter , I will withdraw my support. Until then I choose the position that those bashing him are the kooks , not those supporting him.
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:11 PM
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Don't worry about it Pipes, He is just following his script of " Rod is the Coolest Most Politically Incorrect Conservative Black Man on the Planet"

that means shitting on anything that may be popular...his posts lack substance..just bullshit hot air to piss people off. Guys (or girls who F' in knows ) like this think they have some semblance of power by manipulating people by spreading the polar negatives..i say white, he says " no..that just may indeed be black"

Then we go rushing back to post our proof....I knew this dude was full of it awhile back...so i like to play along sometimes..but in the end...he/she is of no consequence.
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Wrong again Rod- Both migueld and myself have recently expressed varying degrees of concern , disappointment , anger , or frustration with the Paul campaign. Very few support him blindly. BUT , that doesn't change the fact that he is the best candidate with the best platform to move the leviathan backwards. EVERY other candidate is more of the same-and after all is said and done , maybe he turns out to be just another ruse, and we really are powerless , but how can you not at least try?

When you show me he has actually committed wrongdoing, or personally said the things attributed to his newsletter , I will withdraw my support. Until then I choose the position that those bashing him are the kooks , not those supporting him.
This I will give you, Ron Paul has the best platform of all the candidates. That I will not and cannot argue with. However, Paul is NOT the best person out there to be on the leading edge of that platform. There must be someone out there that would be better suited to carry the torch of true Constitutional freedom. Ron Paul is just not the guy to do it. He is a liar (not that most politicians are not liars) a racist (I don't buy all the bull crap surrounding his newsletter...he didn't know who wrote those articles? PALEEZE) and just plain sleazy.
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You will never find another candidate who is true to his beliefs over 30 years, who hasn't been coopted by the filthy system. Who cares if he said or supported that politically incorrect BS, PC is a tool used to close minds, are you too obtuse to see that? PC has no place in a free-thinking society, it limits freedom of thought and speech.
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Old 01-14-2008, 08:47 PM
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Icy, you really are wasting your time with "Rod"...he is just fucking w/ you to do it...If he had anything worth debating i would like to do it...he just wants to keep up the bullshit...

His arguments are empty rhetoric..you can't see that?..
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You will never find another candidate who is true to his beliefs over 30 years, who hasn't been coopted by the filthy system. Who cares if he said or supported that politically incorrect BS, PC is a tool used to close minds, are you too obtuse to see that? PC has no place in a free-thinking society, it limits freedom of thought and speech.
That is a little shallow. Ron Paul is not the ONLY person out there who could be qualified to be president that thinks the way we think as far as running the government is concerned. Hell, maybe if some of you on this board stopped being total asses and got involved in your local and state governments, maybe, just maybe you could run run for office and maybe one day be president.
There are 300 million people in this country. Ron Paul is not the best and last hope for our constitution.
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