Someone explain how a Baptist minister who doesn't believe in evolution and a socialist with virtually no experience who will destroy our health care system just won in Iowa?

Because Americans are stupid.

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Here's a breakdown of Barack Obama on the issues.
Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Issues

Senator Obama has been able to develop innovative approaches to challenge the status quo and get results. Americans are tired of divisive ideological politics, which is why Senator Obama has reached out to Republicans to find areas of common ground. He has tried to break partisan logjams and take on seemingly intractable problems. During his tenure in Washington and in the Illinois State Senate, Barack Obama has accumulated a record of bipartisan success.



Civil Rights

There is no more fundamental American right than the right to vote. Before the landmark 1965 Voting Rights Act, barriers such as literacy tests, poll taxes and property requirements disenfranchised many Americans, especially minorities. More than 40 years later, there are still numerous obstacles to ensuring that every citizen has the ability to vote.
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Economy

As president, Barack Obama will implement a 21st century economic agenda to help ensure that America can compete in a global economy, and ensure the middle class is thriving and growing. He will increase investments in infrastructure, energy independence, education, and research and development; modernize and simplify our tax code so it provides greater opportunity and relief to more Americans; and implement trade policies that benefit American workers and increase the export of American goods.
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Education

Throughout America's history, education has been the vehicle for social and economic mobility, giving hope and opportunity to millions of young people. Our schools must prepare students not only to meet the demands of the global economy, but also help students take their place as committed and engaged citizens. It must ensure that all students have a quality education regardless of race, class, or background. Barack Obama is committed to strengthening our public schools to maximize our country's greatest natural resource - the American people. Obama believes that we must equip poor and struggling districts, both rural and urban, with the support and resources they need to provide disadvantaged students with an opportunity to reach their full potential. Too often, our leaders present this issue as an either - or debate, divided between giving our schools more funding, or demanding more accountability. Obama believes that we have to do both, and has offered innovative ideas to break through the political stalemate in Washington.
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Energy & Environment

Senator Obama has been a leader in the Senate in pushing for a comprehensive national energy policy and has introduced a number of bills to get us closer to the goal of energy independence. By putting aside partisan battles, he has found common ground on CAFE, renewable fuels, and clean coal.
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Ethics

Throughout his political career, Barack Obama has been a leader in fighting for open and honest government. As a U.S. Senator, he has spearheaded the effort to clean up Washington in the wake of the Jack Abramoff scandal. In a politically charged election year, Obama acknowledged that corruption was a problem that plagued both political parties. He subsequently enlisted the help of Republican allies to limit lobbyist influence, shine sunlight into the earmarks process and promote open government.
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Faith

In June of 2006, Senator Obama delivered what was called the most important speech on religion and politics in 40 years. Speaking before an evangelical audience, Senator Obama candidly discussed his own religious conversion and doubts, and the need for a deeper, more substantive discussion about the role of faith in American life.
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Family

Strong families raise successful children and keep communities together. While Senator Obama does not believe that we can simply legislate healthy families, good parenting skills or economic success, he does believe we can eliminate roadblocks that parents face and provide tools to help them succeed. A husband and father of two, Senator Obama has promoted strong families in the Senate.
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Fiscal

"The cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and states of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on ... If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we'd see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies." - Barack Obama, Speech in the U.S. Senate, March 13, 2006
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Foreign Policy

As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Senator Obama has fought to strengthen America's position in the world. Reaching across the aisle, Obama has tackled problems such as preventing the spread of weapons of mass destruction and stopping the genocide in Darfur.
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Healthcare

"I...believe that every American has the right to affordable health care. I believe that the millions of Americans who can't take their children to a doctor when they get sick have that right...We now face an opportunity - and an obligation - to turn the page on the failed politics of yesterday's health care debates. It's time to bring together businesses, the medical community, and members of both parties around a comprehensive solution to this crisis, and it's time to let the drug and insurance industries know that while they'll get a seat at the table, they don't get to buy every chair." -Barack Obama, Speech in Iowa City, IA, 5/27/07
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Homeland Security

Five years after 9/11, our country is still unprepared for a terrorist attack. From improving security for our transit systems and chemical plants, to increasing cargo screening in our airports and seaports, the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission have been underfunded and ignored. The 9/11 Commission gave the government five F's and 12 D's on the implementation of its recommendations. Senator Obama is a member of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee and has supported efforts to base homeland security spending on risk rather than pork-barrel politics. He has also introduced legislation to strengthen chemical plant and drinking water security and to enhance disaster preparedness.
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Immigration

Barack Obama has played a leading role in crafting comprehensive immigration reform. Obama believes the immigration issue has been exploited by politicians to divide the nation rather than find real solutions. This divisiveness has allowed the illegal immigration problem to worsen, with borders that are less secure than ever and an economy that depends on millions of workers living in the shadows.
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Iraq

Before the war in Iraq ever started, Senator Obama said that it was wrong in its conception. In 2002, then Illinois State Senator Obama said Saddam Hussein posed no imminent threat to the United States and that invasion would lead to an occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. Since then, Senator Obama has laid out a plan on the way forward in Iraq that has largely been affirmed by the bipartisan Iraq Study Group led by James Baker and Lee Hamilton.
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Poverty

There are 37 million poor Americans. Most poor Americans are in the workforce, yet still cannot afford to make ends meet. And too many poor Americans are single mothers who are raising children. Barack Obama has been a lifelong advocate for the poor -- as a young college graduate, he rejected the high salaries of corporate America and moved to the South Side of Chicago to work as a community organizer. As an organizer, Obama worked with churches, Chicago residents and local government to set up job training programs for the unemployed and after school programs for kids.
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Rural

"We are at that critical and urgent moment. If Washington continues policies that work against America's family farmers, our rural communities will fall further behind - and so will America. But if we reject the politics that has shut ordinary folks out, we can create a new story for rural America ... The dreams of rural Americans are familiar to all Americans - to make a good living, to raise a healthy and secure family, and to leave our children a future of opportunity. It's time for real leadership for rural America to extend that American dream. That's the dream of opportunity that I've spent my life fighting for. And that's what our rural agenda will do." - Barack Obama, Speech in Fairfax, IA, October 16, 2007
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Service

"Your own story and the American story are not separate - they are shared. And they will both be enriched if we stand up together, and answer a new call to service to meet the challenges of our new century ... I won't just ask for your vote as a candidate; I will ask for your service and your active citizenship when I am president of the United States. This will not be a call issued in one speech or program; this will be a cause of my presidency." - Barack Obama, Speech in Mt. Vernon, Iowa, December 5, 2007
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Seniors & Social Security

Americans turning 65 this year have grown our economy by 4.5 times over the course of their working lives. They have tilled our soil, defended our country, taught our children, worked in our factories, and raised a new generation to build upon their successes. And yet, many struggle to get by. Threats to Social Security and Medicare, skyrocketing health costs, and abuse and neglect of seniors all jeopardize our unspoken covenant: our seniors worked hard to take care of us, and now we must be here for them.
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Technology

"Let us be the generation that reshapes our economy to compete in the digital age. Let's set high standards for our schools and give them the resources they need to succeed. Let's recruit a new army of teachers, and give them better pay and more support in exchange for more accountability. Let's make college more affordable, and let's invest in scientific research, and let's lay down broadband lines through the heart of inner cities and rural towns all across America."
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Veterans

As a member of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee, Senator Obama is committed to helping the heroes who defend our nation today and the veterans who fought in years past. A grandson of a World War II veteran who went to college on the G.I. Bill, Senator Obama has reached out to Republicans and Democrats in order to honor our commitment to America's veterans.
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So please lets do a critical analysis of the socialist agenda accusation. I'm real curious what peoples thoughts are beyond Fuck you, you are a communist.

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I posted on another thread that in 1992 clinton only received 2.8% of the caucus vote, and as everyone knows he went on to become president. It's really not as important as the main stream media would have all us believe. They were making it sound as if Hillary and Edwards should throw in the towel. In 1992 Clinton's opponant had 76% of the vote, that's one hell of a come back. I really don't think Obama will get too far, Oprah's fat ass can only carry him for so long, he will have defend charges. The mud will now start to fly. By the time November is here many people have heard many more things, as far as hillary and Edwards, everyone already knows everything. Or do we......

They've had it, only selfinterest resulted in those BIG government tallys.

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he really needs to come clean on this though:

Barack Obama has been friends with Antoin ("Tony") Rezko since at least 1990. Rezko offered him a job in the early 1990s (declined), and has raised at least $60,000 for Obama's campaigns. In return, Barack arranged an internship in 2005 for John Aramanda, the son of a Rezko business associate (Joseph Aramanda, who himself gave Barack $11,500.)



There's more. In June, 2005, Obama bought a house in Chicago for $1.65 million. The same day, Rezko bought the vacant lot next door for $625,00. Seven months later, Rezko sold Barack a slice (1/6th) of his lot so the Obamas could have a bigger yard. There's no evidence that Rezko bought the vacant land for any other reason than to do Obama a favor.



Here's the real problem: among other problems, Rezko is under indictment in a federal government corruption case for demanding kickbacks from companies wanting to do business with Illinois Governor Blagojevich, another politician that Rezko has befriended and donated to. (Rezko is also under indictment for shaking down a Hollywood producer for $1.5 million in campaign contributions for Blagojevich. The guy takes care of his friends.) In fact, Joseph Aramanda is an unindicted co-conspirator in one of the kickback cases. Obama has admitted that the land deal was a mistake, and donated $11,500 given to him directly by Rezko to charity.


and really....do we need another drug addict in the white house?


Long before he ever ran for political office, Obama wrote a book about himself, and his amazing his journey it was quite an epic, considering he was 34 at the time. In that book, called "Dreams From My Father", he writes that he used marijuana and cocaine ("maybe a little blow".) Oddly enough, he writes that he didn't try heroin because -- wait for it -- he didn't like the pusher who was selling it. (Weren't there any other reasons?) In a later interview, he added "Teenage boys are frequently confused."


Now thats something i worry about.

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I can't get past the look in eyes. He looks like he's hiding something. The more I learn, well - the more I learn. He seems to have a past. The muslim thing wouldn't bother me quite so much, because he was a kid at the time and there really isn't much you can do when your parents have a religious belief and send you to a private school. What bothers me is that he lies about it. He says the school was never a muslim institution, so everyone else is wrong? The school issued a letter saying they don't have muslim teachings, yet the people who attend have a different story. I myself could probably go talk to Father Paul from catholic school and ask a favor, I am sure he would help if he could. Especially if a donation was made.

While America might be willing to move in the forward direction of electing a black man or white woman as president, I don't think we need to be electing a muslim man. I know he was a kid and it's not relevant. I was a catholic as a kid, I consider myself a recovering catholic. (lol) The truth is that though I may not believe in religion, I believe in God. Part of what I believe was molded by what I was taught as a child. This is the case with all human beings. We are molded from our childhood.

And why is it that everytime you see this guy he's talking about taking his message around the globe? Fuck the globe. He sounds like a dictator! Everytime people chant his name I'm freaked out. I feel like I'm in the holy land. The thing that scares me the most is that people are looking for someone to fix all the shit bush has broken and everyone wants change, and as much as I hate bush - I think Obama would be far worse. We have already seen that having experience matters (you actually have to be present and vote), crack heads are bad, and a grade point average of 4.0 is important.

I guess we will all just have to wait and see....

Something even scarier than that, one of them will be the next President.

You are living through the end of America as we once knew it, fifty years from now America will probably be two or three different country's all of them Third World Shit Holes, they won't even remember the Constitution, you will have to stand in line for everything, several different languages will be spoken and nobody will be able to understand each other because they will refuse to learn English, Hispanics and Blacks will be killing each other on sight (that little war has already started in California and in many Prisons)

THE END IS NEAR

The Far Left Wing Liberal "New Democrat" is destroying this country with all their permisivness, lack of discipline, obsession with Diversity, obsession with sex, obsession with "crazy far out freedoms" and all the rest of their slobbering do-gooder shit.

PRAISE ALLAH
DEATH TO AMERICA (then they will come)

Why does the media refer so often to huckabee having been a Baptist preacher and never mentions that Romney was a Mormon bishop and stake president for an even longer period of time? Huckaby has been in politics longer than he was a pastor. Romney served one term as governor and 12 years as bishop or stake president which is what mormons have instead of pastors, plus 2 years as a full-time missionary. There was a big article Jan 12 in the Salt Lake Tribune where they think his church service will get him more votes. I don't see how this is any different than Huckabee rallying Christians, except Huckabee doesn't try to hide the fact that he was a pastor like Romney does in places it won't help him.