CIA destroyed torture tapes despite court order

Oedipus Rex · #11 (**permalink**) 12-12-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Upton

Read it and weep.

I did and I'm still laughing...

"Attorneys say that might not matter."

That's like saying 'if'. If a frog had wings... he wouldn't bump his ass when he jumps.

FedUpAmerican · #12 (**permalink**) 12-12-2007, 11:03 AM

Gee an order coming from a white house counsel member MUST trump an order from bush and his lap dogs.

smitty, you're as uneducated and ignorant as they come. Your copy and paste posts PROVE you have NO MIND of your own.

Upton · #13 (**permalink**) 12-12-2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Oedipus Rex

I did and I'm still laughing...

"Attorneys say that might not matter."

That's like saying 'if'. If a frog had wings... he wouldn't bump his ass when he jumps.

Face it, the administration is filled with torture freaks, emphasis on freaks. Here, you can weep about this too.

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Court orders Bush administration to preserve possible evidence of torture
| McClatchy Newspapers

* Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007

A federal appeals court in Washington, D.C., issued a preliminary order on Tuesday directing the Bush administration to preserve any evidence that might show that a former Baltimore resident was tortured during his three years in secret CIA detention.

The order, by a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, gave the government until Dec. 20 to respond to a court filing last week that accused the CIA of torturing Majid Khan, 27.

Khan is among 15 high-value detainees who once were held by the CIA but are now in military custody at the prison camp for suspected terrorists at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Khan's lawyers requested the court action last week, after CIA Director Michael Hayden acknowledged that the agency had destroyed videotapes of the interrogations of two other Guantanamo detainees who, like Khan, had spent years in secret CIA custody.

[b]Khan, who was a legal U.S. resident and graduated from a suburban Baltimore high school, hasn't been charged with a crime. Pentagon officials claim that he was assigned by the reputed mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, to research "the poisoning of U.S. water reservoirs and the possibility of blowing up gas stations.''

Of the 15 captives formerly held by the CIA, only Khan has been allowed to see his attorneys.

Based on the meetings, his attorneys claimed in a 25-page motion that there was ample proof that their client had been tortured, and they asked the appeals court to order that evidence be preserved. Under the Military Commissions Act that Congress passed last year, the Washington appeals court is the only civilian court with jurisdiction to hear detainee issues.

It's impossible to verify the attorneys' claims independently. Intelligence officers blacked out major portions of their filing before it was released publicly.

In its order, the appeals court directed Defense Secretary Robert Gates to "take all measures necessary to preserve the material described in the motion for preservation of torture evidence pending the remainder of briefing on that motion and further order of the court.''

The judges issuing the order were Judith W. Rogers, Merrick B. Garland and Thomas B. Griffith. Rogers and Garland were appointed to the court by President Clinton. Griffith was appointed by the current President Bush.

McClatchy Washington Bureau | 12/11/2007 | Court orders Bush administration to preserve possible evidence of torture

Oedipus Rex · #14 (**permalink**) 12-12-2007, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Upton

Face it, the administration is filled with torture freaks, emphasis on freaks. Here, you can weep about this too.
McClatchy Washington Bureau | 12/11/2007 | Court orders Bush administration to preserve possible evidence of torture

Great! Now tell me how that order, issued 11 Dec 2007, is retroactive. Face the music. You guys don't have a leg to stand on. I'm also willing to bet every videotape that was out there has now been destroyed. Why? Simple... you guys side with the terrorists. We wouldn't want to give the enemy or their confederates (that's you guys) any ammo to shoot us with.

Upton · #15 (**permalink**) 12-12-2007, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Oedipus Rex

Great! Now tell me how that order, issued 11 Dec 2007, is retroactive. Face the music. You guys don't have a leg to stand on. I'm also willing to bet every videotape that was out there has now been destroyed. Why? Simple... you guys side with the terrorists. We wouldn't want to give the enemy or their confederates (that's you guys) any ammo to shoot us with.

We're on the side of America. The Bush administration and it's supporters must be on the side of the terrorists, as they sure have helped with their recruiting drive.

ONEWHITEDUCK · #16 (**permalink**) 12-12-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FedUpAmerican

Gee an order coming from a white house counsel member MUST trump an order from bush and his lap dogs.

smitty, you're as uneducated and ignorant as they come. Your copy and paste posts PROVE you have NO MIND of your own.

PLUS......he's in CAHOOTS WITH COOKIE PARKER AND THEREFORE ALL HER FAGGOT INTERNET CUNT TROLL GANG

that what you get for ignoring me shitty smitty

Oedipus Rex · #17 (**permalink**) 12-12-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Upton

We're on the side of America. The Bush administration and it's supporters must be on the side of the terrorists, as they sure have helped with their recruiting drive.

I call 'bullshit' on that one. You guys will do anything you can to restrict this country's ability to fight terrorists. The only difference between you guys and the terrorists is that many of you are American citizens. But your loyalties are with the terrorists.

Upton · #18 (**permalink**) 12-12-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Oedipus Rex

I call 'bullshit' on that one. You guys will do anything you can to restrict this country's ability to fight terrorists. The only difference between you guys and the terrorists is that many of you are American citizens. But your loyalties are with the terrorists.

It's now been 2276 days since President Bush said he would get Osama bin Laden "Dead Or Alive". He's still free.

You call that fighting terrorism?

Oedipus Rex · #19 (**permalink**) 12-12-2007, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Upton

It's now been 2276 days since President Bush said he would get Osama bin Laden "Dead Or Alive". He's still free.

You call that fighting terrorism?

Yes. What do you call your attempts to rescue terrorists? I call them traitorous.

Upton · #20 (**permalink**) 12-12-2007, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Oedipus Rex

Yes. What do you call your attempts to rescue terrorists? I call them traitorous.

Allowing Osama to run free, while resources, that could have been used in his capture, have been diverted to Iraq, that's traitorous.