Lauer Stirs Scandal Over How Water Boarding Saved Lives Lauer Stirs Scandal Over How Water Boarding Saved Lives --12/12/2007-- Media Research Center



Former CIA officer John Kiriakou, who was part of the team which interrogated captured al Qaeda leader Abu Zubayda, appeared Tuesday on the CBS and NBC morning shows, but while CBS's Harry Smith was most interested in how water boarding led Zubayda to reveal future attack plans, on NBC's Today show Matt Lauer focused on fueling political scandal over the use of torture: He zeroed in on getting Kiriakou to confirm the authority to water board came from the White House and to contradict President Bush's insistence the U.S. does not use torture while Lauer contended the videos were destroyed to eliminate "incriminating evidence."

Lauer wanted to know: "Where was the permission given, in your opinion? The highest levels of the CIA? Was the White House involved in that decision?" Lauer soon played 2006 video of President Bush telling Lauer the U.S. doesn't employ torture and then prodded Kiriakou to disagree with Bush. Wrapping up the segment, Lauer wondered: "Can you think of any reason why the CIA would have destroyed the tapes of those interrogations other than to destroy valuable and incriminating evidence in a possible torture investigation?" When Kiriakou suggested a more innocent explanation that "somebody just wasn't thinking and they went ahead and did it without, without thought," Lauer countered: "That's somewhat naive."

In contrast, on CBS's The Early Show, Harry Smith asked: "This technique was used on Zabayda to what result?" Kiriakou answered: "The result was that he opened up and cooperated fully." Smith added: "Right, he literally cracked like an egg." Smith soon pushed Kiriakou to elaborate: "So he's water boarded, he cracks like an egg, the next morning he gets up, he says he has a vision, what kind of information did he impart then?" Kiriakou: "He gave us detailed information on planned al Qaeda attacks."

(In soundbites aired in a story from David Martin later on Tuesday's CBS Evening News, Kiriakou recalled that in 2002 "we were so worried that there was some major attack being prepared" and how "it was that information that he provided after the water boarding that allowed us to disrupt so many different terrorist operations...there was a truck loaded with explosives that we were able to intercept.")

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"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." Ronald Reagan http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/war...bout-iraq.html

Twas the Night Before Christmas

Twas the Night Before Christmas , He lived all Alone
In a one bedroom house made of plaster and stone
I had come down the chimney with presents to give
and to see just who in this home now did live

I "LOOKED" all about, a strange sight did I see
NO Tinsel NO presents, not even a tree:-(
NO stockings by the mantle, just boots filled with sand
On the wall hung a picture of far distant lands.

With medals and badges, awards of all kinds
A sober thought came through mycurious mind
For this house was different, it was dark, quiet and dreary,
Twas the house of a Soldier, once I could see clearly :-O

The Soldier lay sleeping, silent, alone
Curled up on the floor, in this one bedroom home
The face was so gentle, the room such disorder
I thought HOW COULD THIS BE A UNITED STATES SOLDIER :-O

Was this the hero of whom I'd just read ?
Curled up on a poncho, the floor for his bed ?
I realized the Families I saw on this night
Owed their lives to this MAN who was willing to fight.

Soon round the world the children would play
And Grownups would celebrate a bright Christmas day
THey all enjoyed freedom each day of the year
Because of this Soldier, the one lying here.

I couldn't help wonder how many lay alone
On a cold Christmas Eve in a land far from home
The very thought bought a tear to my eye
I dropped to my knees and I started to cry

The Soldier awakened and I heard a rough voice
"SANTA don't cry so, IT'S MY LIFE, and my choice;
I Fight for Freedom, I don't ask for more
My life is for GOD, my country, my Corps"

The Soldier rolled over and drifted to sleep
I couldn't control it I started to weep
I kept watch for hours, so silent and still
And we both shivered from the cold nights chill

I didn't want to leave on that cold winter night
This Gaurdian of Honor so willing to fight
The Soldier rolled over, with a voice soft and pure,
Whispered, " CARRY ON SANTA, ALL IS SECURE"

ONe look at my watch and I knew he was right

MERRY CHRISTMAS, MY FREIND, and to ALL a

GOOD MORNING ASS-CLOWNS

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If you don't KNOW where you come from...you WILL wind up going nowhere.

That goes for Ideas, institutions as well as individuals :-I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUncnWxjUXM
^You CAN Handle The Truth - TRANCE Form America - 3of7

PSI TECH INVESTIGATIONS and LAW ENFORCEMENT

~777~ "THE AWACS ANGEL CODE"

duck that would have been a beautiful rendition IF it was true. Any cunt military pussy that served or is serving in Iraq had done NOTHING for my freedom. Try again you smelly old cunt.

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This is the guy that was there for the waterboarding of Zabaydah who broke in less then 35 seconds. Zabaydah stayed silent for weeks and all it took was 35 seconds of waterboarding to break his ass! Zabaydah gave invaluble information about attacks and the location of terrorist cells to include Zaqawi.

Waterboarding Success Stories: Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and Library Tower | waterboarding.org

Waterboarding also broke Khalid Shaikh Mohammed

Which aspects of this plot could Khalid Shaikh Mohammed's waterboarding have revealed?

We learned about Al Qaeda's interest in flying planes into buildings on September 11, 2001.

We knew about Al Qaeda's use of shoe bombs from Richard Reid, captured in December 22, 2001.

We knew about Jemaah Islamiyah at least since the Bali Bomb attack on October 12, 2002.

The "key al Qaeda operative" and pilot for the plot, Zaini Zakari, was arrested by Malaysian authorities in December 2002.

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"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." Ronald Reagan http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/war...bout-iraq.html

Wow you marine pussies are real tough

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Abu Zubaydah, his captors discovered, turned out to be mentally ill and nothing like the pivotal figure they supposed him to be. CIA and FBI analysts, poring over a diary he kept for more than a decade, found entries "in the voice of three people: Hani 1, Hani 2, and Hani 3" -- a boy, a young man and a middle-aged alter ego. All three recorded in numbing detail "what people ate, or wore, or trifling things they said." Dan Coleman, then the FBI's top al-Qaeda analyst, told a senior bureau official, "This guy is insane, certifiable, split personality."

Abu Zubaydah also appeared to know nothing about terrorist operations; rather, he was al-Qaeda's go-to guy for minor logistics -- travel for wives and children and the like. That judgment was "echoed at the top of CIA and was, of course, briefed to the President and Vice President," Suskind writes. And yet somehow, in a speech delivered two weeks later, President Bush portrayed Abu Zubaydah as "one of the top operatives plotting and planning death and destruction on the United States." And over the months to come, under White House and Justice Department direction, the CIA would make him its first test subject for harsh interrogation techniques.
The Shadow War, In a Surprising New Light

THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THE INFORMATION THAT WE GAINED FROM HIM WAS INVALUEABLE!


Confessions of a Terrorist - TIME

Zubaydah's capture and interrogation, told in a gripping narrative that reads like a techno-thriller, did not just take down one of al-Qaeda's most wanted operatives but also unexpectedly provided what one U.S. investigator told Posner was "the Rosetta stone of 9/11 ... the details of what (Zubaydah) claimed was his 'work' for senior Saudi and Pakistani officials." The tale begins at 2 a.m. on March 28, 2002, when U.S. surveillance pinpointed Zubaydah in a two-story safe house in Pakistan. Commandos rousted out 62 suspects, one of whom was seriously wounded while trying to flee. A Pakistani intelligence officer and hastily made voiceprints quickly identified the injured man as Zubaydah.

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"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." Ronald Reagan http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/war...bout-iraq.html

Fuck of you little asspipe. Yoru waanbe shit is tiring as hell. The only thing that wil saves lifes is when the Americans get the fuck out of there.

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Cussing out low class inbreds isnt uninteligent, its honest

Good typing is not inteligent its dexiteritous.

Everything you just said is total bullshit

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Ek...eature=related

LOL. You see? When a liberal is proven wrong he results to hate speach! Another side effect of Bush Derangement Syndrome!

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Please, that story was purposely "leaked" by the CIA as a cover my ass story to take attention off of their destruction of the tapes showing their interrogation tactics. Everybody inside the beltway knew that as soon as the story was released.

Waterboarding has proven vastly ineffective, as the valuable information it gets out of people is grossly unreliable. If you waterboard me I'll tell you whatever you want to know about terrorists, or anything else for that matter, but it won't make it true.