Waterboarding Saved Lives

Smitty0311 · #21 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

You answer your own fantasy put out there.....it just shows you know nothing of the military nor warfare tactics.

If someone were again plotting against us and one of their own were captured, they'd change the plans there were building...do you really think these people are stupid?

That means, torture does nothing to produce accurate information you moron.

Ahhhh! So your the military expert all of a sudden? I love it when a liberal who has never served in the military or has been in Iraq tries to tell ME that I know nothing about how the military operates. Allthough I must admit that I was never invalved in a interrigation, however I was damn sure invalved in capturing these bastards! However now that I post information that waterboarding works you are telling me that it didnt? Well it has worked on three top Al-Quieda officials that gave us lifesaving information! WE KNOW THIS AS FACT! What have you got?

Cookie Parker · #22 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Smitty0311

OK! IF YOUR NOT PROVEN WRONG THEN HOW ABOUT ARGUEING THE ISSUE! IF IM SO WRONG THEN TELL ME WHY! LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE TYPED HERE. HAVE YOU ARGUED THIS ISSUE AT ALL? HELL NO YOU HAVENT! THE TOPIC IS THAT WATERBOARDING SAVED LIVES. THIS SUBJECT MAKES YOU SO MAD BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THAT WATERBOARDING SAVED LIVES! AND WHY DOES THIS MAKE YOU MAD? BUSH DERANGEMENT SYNDROME! YOU SO MAD THAT SOMETHING GOOD CAME FROM A TECHNIQUE THAT DEMOCRATS CONDEMN. YOU KNOW WATERBOARDING WASENT EVEN AN ISSUE BACK IN 2002 WHEN NANCI PELOSI WAS TOLD ABOUT WATERBOARDING AND SHOWN WHERE WE DID IT AT. A MATTER A FACT DEMOCRATS WERE ASKING IF WE WERE DOING ENOUGH! HOWEVER PARTISANSHIP HAS SKEWED US AWAY FROM WHATS RIGHT! YOU WOULD RATHER PEOPLE DIE THAN WATERBOARD A MAN THAT YOU KNOW HAS LIFE SAVING INFORMATION! THATS WHERE WE DIFFER! IN THE END IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THAT WATERBOARDING WORKS.

You're wrong because you don't know squat about war, fucking fool!

Cookie Parker · #23 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Smitty0311

Ahhhh! So your the military expert all of a sudden? I love it when a liberal who has never served in the military or has been in Iraq tries to tell ME that I know nothing about how the military operates. Allthough I must admit that I was never invalved in a interrigation, however I was damn sure invalved in capturing these bastards! However now that I post information that waterboarding works you are telling me that it didnt? Well it has worked on three top Al-Quieda officials that gave us lifesaving information! WE KNOW THIS AS FACT! What have you got?

I'm a student of history and reading, you fucking idiot....

you are just too dumb for words, dude..and your fear factor is right where Bush wants it....peddle lunacy with One White duck....you two are living INSIDE your video games..while most of us on here are adults holding big boy discussions...

CrankyYankee · #24 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Smitty0311

How ethical is it to let people die because you arent willing to extract critical life saving information? Fuck that! We arent maiming, beating, drawing blood, killing, breaking bones, or even scratching these terrorists. Were waterboarding! A process that breaks these guys in a matter of seconds with no pain!

Nobody is talking about "letting" the terrorists do anything....

By using torture we become what we say we are fighting....

Torture cannot be justified.

Smitty0311 · #25 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

I'm a student of history and reading, you fucking idiot....

you are just too dumb for words, dude..and your fear factor is right where Bush wants it....peddle lunacy with One White duck....you two are living INSIDE your video games..while most of us on here are adults holding big boy discussions...

LOL A student of history??? OOOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!! WOOOOOWWW. I AM A PART OF HISTORY! You can read about shit all you want but unless you have lived it then you dont know shit! You think your the military expert because you read books? Fine then! Answer these questions.

What does a 5 paragraph order consist of?

What is the acronym used for mission planning?

what are the 2 ways to call for mortar fire?

What is the rule for a back azmuth

Put these in order
Squad Release Point
Attack Position
Limit of Advance
Assault position
Assimbly Area
Line of Departure
Final cordination line
Platoon Release Point

George O Well · #26 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 08:57 AM

"THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THE INFORMATION THAT WE GAINED FROM HIM WAS INVALUEABLE!"

>>>Sorry, Skippy, whenever I hear "there is no question" coming from a Bushie, I know there is a shitload of question.

Cookie Parker · #27 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Smitty0311

Ahhhh! So your the military expert all of a sudden? I love it when a liberal who has never served in the military or has been in Iraq tries to tell ME that I know nothing about how the military operates. Allthough I must admit that I was never invalved in a interrigation, however I was damn sure invalved in capturing these bastards! However now that I post information that waterboarding works you are telling me that it didnt? Well it has worked on three top Al-Quieda officials that gave us lifesaving information! WE KNOW THIS AS FACT! What have you got?

I doubt very seriously you have any military experience whatsoever, Smitty.

And since when do studies, research and evidence found from torturing people to have not done a thing to stop any attack simply the domain of knowledge from someone allegding to be a foot soldier in an illegal invasion, occupation?

You don't know a thing about tactics and you are certainly no student of military history....you desire to be perceived as all knowledge when it comes to Iraq has long since been exposed as nothing more than wannabe lies from you...

So, you only have to understand human nature, tactics, chess, military history and what is going on to understand torture does not work because those who have planned an attack when one of their own on the inside are captured simply change the tack....you fucking moron.

Cookie Parker · #28 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Smitty0311

LOL A student of history??? OOOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!! WOOOOOWWW. I AM A PART OF HISTORY! You can read about shit all you want but unless you have lived it then you dont know shit! You think your the military expert because you read books? Fine then! Answer these questions.

What does a 5 paragraph order consist of?

What is the acronym used for mission planning?

what are the 2 ways to call for mortar fire?

What is the rule for a back azmuth

Put these in order
Squad Release Point
Attack Position
Limit of Advance
Assault position
Assimbly Area
Line of Departure
Final cordination line
Platoon Release Point

To get your answers, all I have to do is google...for you to present yourself as intelligent on how torture has proven to be nothing of value in fighting any war, you'd have to get a brain...

George O Well · #29 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 08:58 AM

"asspipe"

Asspipe??? LMAO

George O Well · #30 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 09:03 AM

"John Kiriakou"

>>>I think John Kiriakou is gay (may be the queerest guy I've seen on TV since Mr. Green Jeans). I also think the CIA gave him the choice of spreading disinformation or being outed by the 'company'.