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12-09-2007, 01:58 PM
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CIA tortures mentally ill
Unbelievable, in his book, "The One Percent Doctrine," author Ron Suskind gives us the background on Abu Zubaydah, the guy the CIA was torturing in those now destroyed tapes. Here's how the Washington Post's review of Suskind's book describes him:
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Abu Zubaydah, his captors discovered, turned out to be mentally ill and nothing like the pivotal figure they supposed him to be. CIA and FBI analysts, poring over a diary he kept for more than a decade, found entries "in the voice of three people: Hani 1, Hani 2, and Hani 3" -- a boy, a young man and a middle-aged alter ego. All three recorded in numbing detail "what people ate, or wore, or trifling things they said." Dan Coleman, then the FBI's top al-Qaeda analyst, told a senior bureau official, "This guy is insane, certifiable, split personality."
Abu Zubaydah also appeared to know nothing about terrorist operations; rather, he was al-Qaeda's go-to guy for minor logistics -- travel for wives and children and the like. That judgment was "echoed at the top of CIA and was, of course, briefed to the President and Vice President," Suskind writes. And yet somehow, in a speech delivered two weeks later, President Bush portrayed Abu Zubaydah as "one of the top operatives plotting and planning death and destruction on the United States." And over the months to come, under White House and Justice Department direction, the CIA would make him its first test subject for harsh interrogation techniques.
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12-09-2007, 02:09 PM
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"CIA tortures mentally ill?" Afraid you are next?  
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12-09-2007, 02:57 PM
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"CIA tortures mentally ill?" Afraid you are next?  
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No, afraid you're not?
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12-09-2007, 03:00 PM
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CIA tortures mentally ill :-I
WHAT THE HELL YA THINK I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU ALL ALONG :-(
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WolfdeckMental illness is the psychiatric term expressive of medical modeling of human reaction to oppression productive of mental (emotional, intellectual) distress or psychosocial disability. UN-NGOs represent international consumer-survivor groups (e.g. WNUSP & Coalition International) presently active in support of the UN Convention (Treaty) on Rights of Persons with Disabilities. UN-NGOs are participants in a global grassroots movement of solidarity which seeks to reduce human rights abuses inherent to psychiatry. Established practices of psychiatry are based in the lack of respect for simple morality leading to a system’s emphasis on negation of personal freedoms or the human right of self-determination. Self-determination involves human rights issues defined by 1) legal capacity and 2) civil commitment.
Two Moral Principles of Self-Determination:
1) To be human is to possess legal capacity in that a person’s humanity cannot be curtailed or denied by being made illegal. Personhood is inherent! Presently Legal Capacity is broadly defined by Substituted Decision-Making in an all or nothing fashion. Either an individual is fully capable of conducting their business affairs or they are deemed to be incompetent in all areas of life. Individuals with intellectual and psychosocial disabilities advocate a Supported Decision-Making paradigm.
2) Psychiatric commitment is a) involuntary admission into psychiatric institutions and b) involuntary administration of psychiatric treatments. Both these practices are a form of cruel, inhuman and degrading punishment, even torture, as they involve chemical (mind-altering, brain-disabling drugs and ECT ) +/or physical restraint (incarceration and 2, 3, 4, and even 5-point restraints) to quell socially disapproved behaviour.
Human rights violations are minimized or denied by both the American Psychiatric Association and the Canadian Psychiatric Association. These human rights violations involve issues of medical ethics, i.e. the right to voluntary informed consent (self-determination). Involuntary committal is psychiatric imprisonment that excuses itself as prevention detention, an act prohibited by international law and violating several rights in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (sections 7, 9, 15). Community treatment orders (CTOs) are outpatient forced drugging (leash laws), an assault enforced by community treatment teams of mental health professionals. The individual must acquiesce or be involuntarily locked up into a psychiatric institution for an undetermined length of time (without a release date). CTOs are usually powerful, brain-damaging antidepressants and/or neuroleptics. In Ontario, patient appeals are rarely successful.
Physically and chemically restraining children is child abuse - a serious violation of the UN Convention Against Torture and the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. Nevertheless, children as young as toddlers (the terrible twos) are used as guinea pigs in hi-risk drug experiments, fraudulently diagnosed for various socially disapproved behaviours and thereby targeted as recipients of health-threatening and highly addictive stimulants, antidepressants, neuroleptics and physical restraints and seclusion. Hundreds of patients labeled as "non-compliant" or "unmanageable" have been seriously traumatized or died while restrained (see "Deadly Restraint" series in The Hartford Courant). A model of the American TeenScreen is recommended in the current mental health report of the Canadian Senate ("Out of the Shadows - Highlights and Recommendations", 2006, p.19)
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12-09-2007, 04:49 PM
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I thought the same thing Diz...No wonder the Left is so paranoid.  It was a natural assumption to the lead Story.
The Liberals and the Mentally Ill have so much in common.
Peace. 
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12-09-2007, 05:05 PM
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I thought the same thing Diz...No wonder the Left is so paranoid.  It was a natural assumption to the lead Story.
The Liberals and the Mentally Ill have so much in common.
Peace. 
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Ever notice that they ALL think they are so important that the CIA, FBI, DEA, DOD, and Joint Chiefs have nothing to do but to follow THEM ALL around, all day, every day?
The Libs ALL have that Rock Star mentality: It's all about me.
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12-09-2007, 05:15 PM
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Cambridge Mass is a far left wing Bush Hating city full of babbling liberal loons, many of them live in the Harvard Square area hardly any of them have Cable TV, they refuse to let the Cable Guy into their homes, they think that if they have Cable the CIA will be able to watch them through their TV sets.
They all have pictures of Hugo Chavez, Castro, Teddy Kennedy and Michael Dukakis hanging on their dinning room walls.
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12-09-2007, 05:20 PM
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Ever notice that they ALL think they are so important that the CIA, FBI, DEA, DOD, and Joint Chiefs have nothing to do but to follow THEM ALL around, all day, every day?
The Libs ALL have that Rock Star mentality: It's all about me.
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Little do they know,,,  When's the last time you've met a Liberal worth wasting a tick of the clock on...? Other than a Coroner having to show up and dealing with the residue. They're relatively helpless. They like to fall out of trees, stand in front bull-dozers,trains, and in the middle of well traveled streets...
All while chanting some assinine saying repeatively. 
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12-09-2007, 07:41 PM
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Little do they know,,,  When's the last time you've met a Liberal worth wasting a tick of the clock on...? Other than a Coroner having to show up and dealing with the residue. They're relatively helpless. They like to fall out of trees, stand in front bull-dozers,trains, and in the middle of well traveled streets...
All while chanting some assinine saying repeatively. 
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You have just described ONEWHITEDUCK.
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12-09-2007, 07:57 PM
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CIA tortures mentally ill
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