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Old 12-09-2007, 08:07 PM
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I thought torture was torture. Are we saying that torturing the mentally ill is somehow worse than other types of torture?
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:38 PM
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I'M SAYING WHAT THIS GUY SAID

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Mental illness is the psychiatric term expressive of medical modeling of human reaction to oppression productive of mental (emotional, intellectual) distress or psychosocial disability. UN-NGOs represent international consumer-survivor groups (e.g. WNUSP & Coalition International) presently active in support of the UN Convention (Treaty) on Rights of Persons with Disabilities. UN-NGOs are participants in a global grassroots movement of solidarity which seeks to reduce human rights abuses inherent to psychiatry. Established practices of psychiatry are based in the lack of respect for simple morality leading to a system’s emphasis on negation of personal freedoms or the human right of self-determination. Self-determination involves human rights issues defined by 1) legal capacity and 2) civil commitment.

Two Moral Principles of Self-Determination:
1) To be human is to possess legal capacity in that a person’s humanity cannot be curtailed or denied by being made illegal. Personhood is inherent! Presently Legal Capacity is broadly defined by Substituted Decision-Making in an all or nothing fashion. Either an individual is fully capable of conducting their business affairs or they are deemed to be incompetent in all areas of life. Individuals with intellectual and psychosocial disabilities advocate a Supported Decision-Making paradigm.
2) Psychiatric commitment is a) involuntary admission into psychiatric institutions and b) involuntary administration of psychiatric treatments. Both these practices are a form of cruel, inhuman and degrading punishment, even torture, as they involve chemical (mind-altering, brain-disabling drugs and ECT ) +/or physical restraint (incarceration and 2, 3, 4, and even 5-point restraints) to quell socially disapproved behaviour.

Human rights violations are minimized or denied by both the American Psychiatric Association and the Canadian Psychiatric Association. These human rights violations involve issues of medical ethics, i.e. the right to voluntary informed consent (self-determination). Involuntary committal is psychiatric imprisonment that excuses itself as prevention detention, an act prohibited by international law and violating several rights in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (sections 7, 9, 15). Community treatment orders (CTOs) are outpatient forced drugging (leash laws), an assault enforced by community treatment teams of mental health professionals. The individual must acquiesce or be involuntarily locked up into a psychiatric institution for an undetermined length of time (without a release date). CTOs are usually powerful, brain-damaging antidepressants and/or neuroleptics. In Ontario, patient appeals are rarely successful.
Physically and chemically restraining children is child abuse - a serious violation of the UN Convention Against Torture and the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. Nevertheless, children as young as toddlers (the terrible twos) are used as guinea pigs in hi-risk drug experiments, fraudulently diagnosed for various socially disapproved behaviours and thereby targeted as recipients of health-threatening and highly addictive stimulants, antidepressants, neuroleptics and physical restraints and seclusion. Hundreds of patients labeled as "non-compliant" or "unmanageable" have been seriously traumatized or died while restrained (see "Deadly Restraint" series in The Hartford Courant). A model of the American TeenScreen is recommended in the current mental health report of the Canadian Senate ("Out of the Shadows - Highlights and Recommendations", 2006, p.19)

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Old 12-09-2007, 09:07 PM
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Cambridge Mass is a far left wing Bush Hating city full of babbling liberal loons, many of them live in the Harvard Square area hardly any of them have Cable TV, they refuse to let the Cable Guy into their homes, they think that if they have Cable the CIA will be able to watch them through their TV sets.

They all have pictures of Hugo Chavez, Castro, Teddy Kennedy and Michael Dukakis hanging on their dinning room walls.
>>>A lot of 'em go to Harvard. You should be such a babbling loon. It's not hard to understand you feelings though, living near Harvard, MIT, BC, etc. and having to wait table for those people.
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>>>A lot of 'em go to Harvard. You should be such a babbling loon. It's not hard to understand you feelings though, living near Harvard, MIT, BC, etc. and having to wait table for those people.
I'll rephrase it "educated babbling loons" and I know how you feel, back in the Fifties I drove a Cab Part Time and my "Cab Phone Stand" was in Harvard Sq, I used to have fares that could tell you how many inches it was to the Moon but they couldn't walk across Mass Ave without getting hit by a car, many of them couldn't find their own apartments.
It was fun though talking to them, especially the Professors I had some great debates with them, "I was the street guy" they were "The Brain Guy".
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"CIA tortures mentally ill?" Afraid you are next?
Exactly what I thought when I read the title. If the CIA really is torturing the mentally ill the Dems must really be running scared
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:28 AM
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[quote=Upton;265787]Unbelievable, in his book, "The One Percent Doctrine," author Ron Suskind gives us the background on Abu Zubaydah, the guy the CIA was torturing in those now destroyed tapes. Here's how the Washington Post's review of Suskind's book describes him:



At best Abu Zubaydah belongs in a home for the mentally disturbed.As usual the C.I.A. top operatives in Al-Qaeda have to throw the dog a bone once in awhile.
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:51 AM
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DON'T LIKE THE CIA........Neither do I

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SO UH.......hey audience.....does that mean all the cunt wads who OPPOSE ME.......must like the CIA :-)


Perhaps no newspaper is more important to the CIA than the Washington Post, one of the nation’s most right-wing dailies. Its location in the nation’s capitol enables the paper to maintain valuable personal contacts with leading intelligence, political and business figures. Unlike other newspapers, the Post operates its own bureaus around the world, rather than relying on AP wire services. Owner Philip Graham was a military intelligence officer in World War II, and later became close friends with CIA figures like Frank Wisner, Allen Dulles, Desmond FitzGerald and Richard Helms. He inherited the Post by marrying Katherine Graham, whose father owned it.
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:06 PM
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The last time I was in Boston I couldn't find a cabbie who didn't fit the Arab terrorist profile. One day, 50 cabs are going to go missing at the same time, all with people who just got off a plane at Logan.
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:06 PM
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We can't be that bad, the fucking Muslims still Behead people and Stone Women to death in the street.

The same bastards in the Bush Hating Democrat party that went into hysterics and had to be sedated over the Muslim Murderer with ladies underwear on his head in The Abba Dabba prison didn't say one word when Heads were being carved off on TV or when the Savages burned the Americans body then cuts the head off for little "savage kids" to play Soccer with and hung what was left up on bridge for the world to see.

Why don't the Bush Haters ever condem those blood thirsty Murdering Mother Fuckers over in the middle east.

I wonder how Ted Kennedy would feel if he was forced to sit and watch Saddams Demented Sons sodomize some of the Kennedy kids.

Why don't the Bush Haters ever speak of all this Savagery.
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:18 PM
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We can't be that bad, the fucking Muslims still Behead people and Stone Women to death in the street.

The same bastards in the Bush Hating Democrat party that went into hysterics and had to be sedated over the Muslim Murderer with ladies underwear on his head in The Abba Dabba prison didn't say one word when Heads were being carved off on TV or when the Savages burned the Americans body then cuts the head off for little "savage kids" to play Soccer with and hung what was left up on bridge for the world to see.

Why don't the Bush Haters ever condem those blood thirsty Murdering Mother Fuckers over in the middle east.

I wonder how Ted Kennedy would feel if he was forced to sit and watch Saddams Demented Sons sodomize some of the Kennedy kids.

Why don't the Bush Haters ever speak of all this Savagery.
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Why don't you Bush lovers get up off your knees and condemn the prostitution Iraqi children have been forced to turn to, because of the invasion?

There have been 2 threads started on it, and you war mongers sure are quiet.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Prostitution ordeal of Iraqi girls
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