Judith Giuliani’s biggest drawback—her three marriages—reminds voters of Rudy’s own three and the associated tawdry drama. The first, to his second cousin, was annulled after fourteen years. His second, to Hanover, ended with Rudy’s televised May 2000 announcement that he intended to separate from her; Hanover’s shocked, tearful, also-televised response blamed Rudy’s “relationship with one staff member,” i.e., his communications director Cristyne Lategano. That was before much was known about Judith. By the summer of 2001, Judith’s face, along with Donna’s and Rudy’s, was plastered on the cover of People magazine with the tawdry headline INSIDE NEW YORK’S NASTIEST SPLIT … THE MAYOR, THE WIFE, THE MISTRESS.

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It’s no surprise to veteran Rudy watchers that in recent weeks, senior presidential-campaign operatives have apparently been grumbling about what they consider Judith’s meddling in matters outside her areas of competence. “She’s, uh, feisty, as they say,” a high-level supporter told Newsday. “The staff people go a little nuts.”

The story of Manny Papir is a cautionary tale for anyone who doubts that Judith Giuliani is a force to be reckoned with. Papir, Rudy’s longtime personal aide, learned the hard way during a trip to Europe when Rudy, taking a 9/11 victory lap in early 2002, was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II and then was honored with the German Media Prize in Baden-Baden. Among Rudy’s inner circle, Judith was fast becoming known for her demanding requirements. Even loyalist Sunny Mindel was overheard joking that whenever they arranged a chartered jet for their principal and his companion, “we need two seats for Judith—one for her and one for her Gucci bag.”

I like watching you wiggle around defending Judy. LMAO.

I am not defending her dummy. I am saying she is irrelevant. Big difference. Thought I would put it in bold so maybe it would help you understand. I already stated that First spouses were not important to me, but you didn't get it, which comes as little surprise.

You are the one who defends your double standards. See, when people employ double standards then there really is no reason to believe what they say because it will always be aprtisan - they have no real views of their own.

See what I mean? Irrelevant. Did you mind when Bill's First Lady was calling people niggers and jews? Was that a character flaw that reflected her husband? See, it doesn't matter. The very fact that you think it does matter tells a lot about you and your thought process.

LMAO I am enjoying my beer and watching you sputter defending Judy and trying to say she would be like Nancy Reagan. You are toast tonight. You know you lost this if you want to bring candidates pokes at each other competing for the nomination it shows your desperation. What the fuck does Edwards and have to do with first spouces.LMAO!

So if candidates in competition shit talk means so much to you Romney also pointed out Guiliani's tacky wife and six marriages and numerous affairs on Meet the Press.So back on the subject pal .

You say she is not relevant but Rudy says something different.

You can't seem to understand very well, can you? I specifically staed I am not defending her and am saying she is irrelvant, which she is.

Desperation is posting things about Gucci bags and thinking they matter.

Besides, what the fuck do First spouses have to do with elections???? You said yourself that you didn't judge based on who the First Lady was, but you seem awfully concerned. Of course, you do display a lot of double standards, so maybe it jsut matter to you sometimes.

Edwards has to do with Hillary being a neocon, I thought you might enjoy that because I noticed you failed to make an appearance on the thread where I posted it. I remember your fumbling defense of Hillary not being a neocon, so I thought yo might enjoy hearing that Edwards said she was.

Rudy disagrees with you. He says she will advise him on policy.You want her to be irrelevent but Rudy has different plans. I guess you do not like your boys inner circle.

You still haven't found that second article liar Jack.

LMAO you are defending Judy and saying Rudy does not mean what he says about her. Man some people will say anything out of desperation . I can see you sputter even after I've had a few beers.