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11-18-2007, 12:11 AM
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So there you have it Bill Clinton is a better aset. I never said I would choose based on the first spouse but Rudy is looking really slimy for the god fearing moral party voters  . The double standard is not mine it is the minds of the American people. It is not just the sexual double standard. Judy is a low class broad who waas cheating on her man while rudy was cheating on his woman and then hired a celebrity lawyer and gave daily tabloid news. Judy even had it out with the kids. I lived in NYC during this little funfest that will come out during the campaign. He is not doing so well as a father any less.
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All three of the double standards are yours. Your second post verifies that.
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11-18-2007, 12:14 AM
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First spouses aren't supposed to make policy. They are not elected nor are they appointed so they really have no business making any policy. Do you think they should?
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Rudy seems to think so. He said Judy could be part of cabinet meetings and give advice on federal policy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/30/us...cs/30judy.html
In His White House, Giuliani Says, His Wife Might Have a Very Visible Role
By RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA
Published: March 30, 2007
Rudolph W. Giuliani says that if he were president, his wife would be permitted to attend cabinet meetings and advise him on federal policy, an unusually overt role in government decision-making for a first lady.
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11-18-2007, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack Robinson
Rudy seems to think so. He said Judy could be part of cabinet meetings and give advice on federal policy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/30/us...cs/30judy.html
In His White House, Giuliani Says, His Wife Might Have a Very Visible Role
By RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA
Published: March 30, 2007
Rudolph W. Giuliani says that if he were president, his wife would be permitted to attend cabinet meetings and advise him on federal policy, an unusually overt role in government decision-making for a first lady.
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She wouldn't be making policy and she wasn't elected to make policy. You are trying to argue that Bill Clinton would be an asset because of this precise reason. Fact is, it isn't an eleced postiion nor is a position by appointment. A spouse as a sounding board, that is what this amounts to, and you left out the part where he mentioned only if it were relevant. I am sure it was unintentional on your part.
They play public roles, just like other First ladies have done. Every once in a while they will have a cause they work for. Go back and read a few books and see for yoruself if you don't believe me.
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11-18-2007, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack Robinson
Rudy seems to think so. He said Judy could be part of cabinet meetings and give advice on federal policy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/30/us...cs/30judy.html
In His White House, Giuliani Says, His Wife Might Have a Very Visible Role
By RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA
Published: March 30, 2007
Rudolph W. Giuliani says that if he were president, his wife would be permitted to attend cabinet meetings and advise him on federal policy, an unusually overt role in government decision-making for a first lady.
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Originally Posted by Dom1
you left out the part where he mentioned only if it were relevant. I am sure it was unintentional on your part. 
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Asked whether his wife would sit in on Cabinet meetings, Giuliani said, "If she wanted to. If they were relevant to something that she was interested in. I mean that would be something that I'd be very, very comfortable with."
Shit you just pointed out something I did miss. The revelant part! Judy gets to decide what is relevant according to Rudy! LMAO. Here is his quote on what would be relevant. Whatever Judy thinks. LMAO. Six marriages numerous affairs celebrity PR briefngs. You gotta love these family values. 
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11-18-2007, 01:02 AM
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Asked whether his wife would sit in on Cabinet meetings, Giuliani said, "If she wanted to. If they were relevant to something that she was interested in. I mean that would be something that I'd be very, very comfortable with."
Shit you just pointed out something I did miss. The revelant part! Judy gets to decide what is relevant according to Rudy! LMAO. Here is his quote on what would be relevant. Whatever Judy thinks. LMAO. Six marriages numerous affairs celebrity PR briefngs. You gotta love these family values. 
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Where does it say that she gets to pick what is relevant Jack? You aren't making this up are you, I mean, I didn't see where she got to decide. The "whatever she thinks" isn't applied to who determines relevancy - you are making that up Jack. Another double standard of yours. You hurt your argument when you blatantly lie.
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11-18-2007, 01:04 AM
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The double standard is not mine it is the minds of the American people.
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Bullshit. Hell, you couldn't even stop at one, you had to hit the trifecta.
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11-18-2007, 01:07 AM
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Where does it say that she gets to pick what is relevant Jack? You aren't making this up are you, I mean, I didn't see where she got to decide. The "whatever she thinks" isn't applied to who determines relevancy - you are making that up Jack. Another double standard of yours. You hurt yoru argument when you blatantly lie.
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Originally Posted by Jack Robinson
Asked whether his wife would sit in on Cabinet meetings, Giuliani said, "If she wanted to. If they were relevant to something that she was interested in. I mean that would be something that I'd be very, very comfortable with."
Shit you just pointed out something I did miss. The revelant part! Judy gets to decide what is relevant according to Rudy! LMAO. Here is his quote on what would be relevant. Whatever Judy thinks. LMAO. Six marriages numerous affairs celebrity PR briefngs. You gotta love these family values. 
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"If she wanted to.If they were relevant to something she was interested in" LMAO No lie buster brown that is what Rudy said. So who knows what Judy will find interesting. LMAO
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11-18-2007, 01:16 AM
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He also told Walters that he welcomes his wife's involvement in policy decisions during the campaign "to the extent she wants to be…I couldn't have a better adviser."
LMAO I think it sounds like Judy will decide the extent according to Rudy. 
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11-18-2007, 01:24 AM
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It is like Nancy Reagan and her "Just say no" or a literacy progam and shit like that. She is already involved in things such as this and all the recent first ladies have all done things like this. You are attempting to say that she will be making policy in America which is totally false. You must be really scared that Giuliani can win. Rosalynn Carter sat in on Cabinet meetings, you have no problem with that even though you have already expressed your love affait with the Carter presidency.
Plus, you found the first article on this, I was wondering if you would ever get around to the second. I didn't figure that you would.
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11-18-2007, 01:25 AM
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He also told Walters that he welcomes his wife's involvement in policy decisions during the campaign "to the extent she wants to be…I couldn't have a better adviser."
LMAO I think it sounds like Judy will decide the extent according to Rudy. 
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Keep laughing while you don't post what else Rudy says about her involvement. I usually like to see people go on and on about this stuff when they aren't telling the whole story.
BTW, did you see where Edwards puts Hillary right up there with the neocons? Guess I was right on the money, eh Jack?
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