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View Poll Results: Do Anti-War Films Result In More Deaths For Our Troops And Propaganda For Our Enemys?
YES 7 24.14%
MORE THAN LIKELY 3 10.34%
NO 17 58.62%
OTHER 2 6.90%
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:23 AM
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Default Do Anti War Films Hurt/Kill Our Troops?

These films are just a few that spread anti American hatred throughout the world. When I was in Iraq in 2004/2005 the Ferenhiet 9/11 DVD could be found in many Iraqi marketplaces. In the eyes of our enemy these films provide legitimacy to continue to attack and kill our troops. What better propanganda for the enemy than the propaganda provided by Americans? After all, if america says it then it must be true. As a result the enemy uses the propaganda provided by the Anti-War Looney Left to act not only as a recruiting aid, but a legitimate reason to kill our troops as well! I posted a poll above. Ive told you the reason why I voted Yes. If you were to vote no I would like to hear why.







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Old 11-15-2007, 11:32 AM
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Smitty- I am not familiar with the fims you posted except for Moore's film which I only viewed part of a long time ago. The part of that film most vivid in my mind was bush repeating "we gonna smoke em out" referring to bin Laden with old gunsmoke music playing. I viewed that film in parts so long ago not knowing what was fact or fiction. it would be intersting to watch and see how much was spin and what came to reality.

I think film is art, drama, mostly garbage with a few good films along the way. Films could demonize a war, glorify a war, rewrite history etc.

Are you suggesting we censor films?
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:36 AM
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I would expect that answer from you Sam. I would also expect that you wouldent give an reason for your answer. Typical Liberal nut job.


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I Guess I Spoke Too Late. Sorry Sam. I didnt see your name at the bottom of the AWE Lobby. I thought you had left!
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:40 AM
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Smitty- I am not familiar with the fims you posted except for Moore's film which I only viewed part of a long time ago. The part of that film most vivid in my mind was bush repeating "we gonna smoke em out" referring to bin Laden with old gunsmoke music playing. I viewed that film in parts so long ago not knowing what was fact or fiction. it would be intersting to watch and see how much was spin and what came to reality.

I think film is art, drama, mostly garbage with a few good films along the way. Films could demonize a war, glorify a war, rewrite history etc.

Are you suggesting we censor films?
Wow, Sam....Smitty thinks you are a liberal nut job....oh..oh. Personally, I don't like Michael Moore (although I do agree with some of views/points). He puts way too much spin in his movies...IMHO.
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Anti war films walk a thin line I think. One the one side we have the issue of censorship and on the other we have aid and comfort to the enemy. All of these films, both pro and con could be considered propaganda. By supporting the notion we are evil or misguided to enter a war are we not supporting victory for our enemy? In my opinion we should stridently protest our involvement in any war right up to the second we lose the first American soldier in battle. After that we should support the stated policy of this country and support our troops in battle. IMHO anything less is support of our enemy and is treason.
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Smitty- I am not familiar with the fims you posted except for Moore's film which I only viewed part of a long time ago. The part of that film most vivid in my mind was bush repeating "we gonna smoke em out" referring to bin Laden with old gunsmoke music playing. I viewed that film in parts so long ago not knowing what was fact or fiction. it would be intersting to watch and see how much was spin and what came to reality.

I think film is art, drama, mostly garbage with a few good films along the way. Films could demonize a war, glorify a war, rewrite history etc.

Are you suggesting we censor films?
It is treason to provide our enemys with aid and comfort. Many people view these films as documentarys. Including the people who made them. Every director From Michael Moore "Ferinheit 9/11 to Brian De Palma "Redacted (comong out next week)" has said that the goal of their films was to help end the war! Sam YOU CANT TELL ME THAT THE ENEMY DOESENT USE THESE FILMS AS A RECRUITING TOOL! YOU KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE! If these people made these films back in WWII, WW1, or the CIVAL WAR, they would have been tried and hung for treason!
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Wow, Sam....Smitty thinks you are a liberal nut job....oh..oh. Personally, I don't like Michael Moore (although I do agree with some of views/points). He puts way too much spin in his movies...IMHO.
Do you think our enemys look for spin or biass? Do you think our enemys use this for propaganda or recruiting? We know its widly sold in Iraq!
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Wow, Sam....Smitty thinks you are a liberal nut job....oh..oh. Personally, I don't like Michael Moore (although I do agree with some of views/points). He puts way too much spin in his movies...IMHO.
I agree SN about Moore-he will make one good point and then add spin. I really only saw part of 911 and the only other film I viewed was Sicko. I went with 7 physicians and we disected the film afterwards.

So Smitty-you think I liberal nut job ?
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If these people made these films back in WWII, WW1, or the CIVAL WAR, they would have been tried and hung for treason!
Hmmm....that's sad if true given our heritage for personal freedoms including the right to dissent. Sounds like the kind of measures that Nazi Germany was taking at the time.....
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