The ad hominem slur with which political science major Stuart Baimel entitles his recent Stanford Daily hit piece, Ron Paul is insane, and the cacophony of errors which subsequently dominate the essay, just goes to show how much academia is rigged towards grooming compliant plebs for the establishment and not really about educating anyone.

"After reading about Ron Paul’s record-breaking fundraising day a couple of weeks ago, then seeing it touted in a recent Daily op-ed, I was concerned. Paul and his views lie on the fringe; it’s never a good sign for social stability when fringe candidates get so much support," whines Baimel.

Ron Paul's views lie on the fringe? Absolute bullshit. It seems that Baimel has unfortunately thrown thousands of dollars at a political science degree in vain - and I - the University dropout - am going to have to give him a proper education.

Ron Paul's central "fringe view" as Baimel would have it, is his anti-war stance. The Texas Congressman is the only Republican candidate to advocate an immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, indeed, he is the only truly anti-war candidate of the frontrunners from either party.

Is being anti-war a fringe view in late 2007? Let's take a look at the polls.

NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll

"In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that George W. Bush is doing in handling the situation in Iraq?"

Disapprove - 68%
Approve - 28%
Not Sure - 5%

"When it comes to the war in Iraq, which of the following statements comes closer to your point of view? The most responsible thing we can do is find a way to withdraw most of our troops from Iraq by the beginning of 2009. The most responsible thing we can do is to remain in Iraq until the situation in the country is stable."

Withdraw most troops by 2009 - 55%
Remain until country stable - 40%
Unsure - 5%

ABC News/Washington Post Poll Nov. 1-5, 2007

"All in all, considering the costs to the United States versus the benefits to the United States, do you think the war with Iraq was worth fighting, or not?"

Not worth it - 63%
Worth it - 35%
Unsure - 2%

Pew Research Center for the People & the Press survey conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates International Oct. 17-23, 2007

"Do you think the U.S. should keep military troops in Iraq until the situation has stabilized, or do you think the U.S. should bring its troops home as soon as possible?"

Bring home as soon as possible - 54%
Keep in Iraq until stabilized - 42%
Unsure - 4%

CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. Oct. 12-14

"Do you favor or oppose the U.S. war in Iraq?"

Oppose - 64%
Favor - 34%
Unsure - 2%

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. Sept. 27-30, 2007

"Do you think the United States should keep its military forces in Iraq until civil order is restored there, even if that means continued U.S. military casualties; OR, do you think the United States should withdraw its military forces from Iraq in order to avoid further U.S. military casualties, even if that means civil order is not restored there?"

Withdraw forces - 54%
Keep forces - 43%
Unsure - 3%

Ron Paul is the only frontrunner from either party that has advocated an immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. Is this a fringe view? No - it's the majority view in America today, as every single poll attests to, yet Baimel's major in political science seemingly doesn't teach him how to do a Google search.

The rest of Baimel's piece is riddled with gross inaccuracies. He attacks Kucinich for supporting the impeachment of Bush and Cheney, another "fringe" sentiment according to Baimel.

Wrong again.

A new poll out today from American Research Group finds that 55% of voters believe that George W. Bush has abused his powers in a way that rises to the level of impeachable offenses. 52% of voters believe that the same is true of Vice President Dick Cheney.

Last time I checked, 55% was a majority, not a fringe viewpoint.

Another one vote per IP MSNBC online poll shows 89% support impeachment.


Baimel smirks that Ron Paul is "Content to let genocide, wars of aggression, and human rights violations occur abroad with nothing more than a “moral statement” from the U.S.," intimating that the Neo-Con's butchering of Iraq, which has killed conservatively 655,000 Iraqis since the 2003 invasion and a further 1 million at least as a result of bombings and sanctions since 1990, was somehow a benevolent cause.

Does over 1.5 million dead Iraqis, around half of them children, as a result of U.S. foreign policy qualify as genocide, Mr. Baimel?

Presumably, Baimel entitled his piece "Ron Paul is insane" in an attempt to get a reaction - knowing that the statement itself is manifestly incorrect and is merely an inflammatory gimmick to attract attention and make himself feel important. Well mission accomplished, Stuart, because you're going to be on the receiving end of a fair few opinions over the next few days.

Feel free to politely e mail Baimel



w**.stanfordreview.org/About/Staff/mail


with the truth about Ron Paul's "fringe" views, and maybe it won't be too late to give Stuart a real education after all.

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Fringe Candidate Too Close To Edge

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Published: November 19, 2007

Memo to: Ron Paul supporters

Subject: Your e-mails

Okay, enough is enough. Like every other journalist in America, and who knows, maybe the world or even the universe, I've been deluged with your letters and e-mails. So I've done as you asked and taken a closer look at your candidate. Here is what I've found:

1. Ron Paul is inconsistent. Though he calls himself a man of principle and is apparently admired as such by his ardent fans, his principles seem somewhat elastic.

He rails against the Bush administration for its supposed assault on civil liberties, yet when he was asked at one of the debates whether Scooter Libby deserved a pardon, he said no. "He doesn't deserve one because he was instrumental in leading the Congress and the people to support a war that we didn't need to be in."

Notice that he didn't say it was because Libby was guilty of committing a crime. No, because Libby argued for a policy with which Paul disagreed, he deserved to serve time in prison. Ron Paul, the libertarian, who presumably values liberty above all, is willing to deprive someone else of his because of a policy disagreement?

2. Ron Paul is historically challenged. He argues that by embracing isolationism, he fits within a Republican tradition stretching back to Eisenhower "who stopped the Korean War" and including Nixon "who stopped the war in Vietnam."

Let's recap. Eisenhower threatened to use nuclear weapons against China. It was the Eisenhower administration that had a hand in toppling Iran's Mohammad Mossedegh (an intervention that Paul has elsewhere cited as causing the U.S. grief 25 years later when the Islamists took power).

Eisenhower also intervened in Guatemala, Cuba (planning for the Bay of Pigs began during his tenure) and Lebanon.

Nixon, an isolationist? Most observers, whatever they may make of detente with the USSR and the opening to China, agree that Nixon was an emphatic internationalist.

3. Ron Paul is unserious. Suggesting that you will eliminate the IRS, the CIA, the FBI and other government agencies within weeks of taking office is ridiculous. These are bumper stickers, not serious reform proposals.

4. Ron Paul is too cozy with kooks and conspiracy theorists.

Paul has appeared on the Alex Jones radio program not once, not twice, but three times. Jones is the sort who believes that black helicopters are coming to impose a police state on America. He is quite concerned about the Bohemian Grove, the Bilderbergers, the federal election system (it's rigged, of course) and so on.

Naturally, he believes that 9/11 was an inside job. Ron Paul has even appeared in a Jones film, "Endgame," the point of which is apparently that the Bilderbergers are plotting to control the world.

They've already got Europe (through the European Union) and now are on the verge of securing America by means of a North American union that would unite Mexico, the United States and Canada.

Ron Paul is the favorite candidate of a number of racist, neo-Nazi and conspiracist Web sites. While Paul cannot be held accountable for the views of cranks and kooks, he can disavow their support and return their checks.

He received $500 from Don Black, the proprietor of Stormfront.org and former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. He has not yet returned it.

Moreover, Paul seems to be playing a sly game with his conspiracy-minded fans. He does not explicitly endorse the crazier theories out there, but he hints at dark forces in the U.S. government threatening our liberties, he inveighs against the "neo-cons" (shorthand for Jews in some circles), and he gives aid and comfort to the paranoid by appearing on their favorite radio shows.

No, Ron Paul is not my candidate. Not for president. He might make a dandy new leader for the Branch Davidians.

Mona Charen's column is distributed by Creators Syndicate, Inc.

Ok, I have tried to refrain from cussing since I've gotten back... actually, I haven't had much cause to.

BUT THIS PISSES ME RIGHT THE FUCK OFF!!!

Not that they don't like Paul, I could care less...

But this, ...THIS IS JOURNALISM?

Where the FUCK ARE THE REAL JOURNALISTS?
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE FREE PRESS?

It's one thing to skew things to your view, but this is outright FANTASY!

This is the closest we've come in ove a hundred years to having someone that will stand up for and with the poeple to help us take back our country, and these special interest, divide perpetuating mouthpieces don't like that? Then my question is...

WHO ARE THEY REALLY WORKING FOR?

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He is insane. For those that support him, are those who also support the most fringe ideas: UFO/Alien abductions/Chem-trails tin-foil junk. Not only those types, but the KKK and Neo-Nazi "Libertarians" like him.

Paul is a tad too off main street to be a candidate folks would vote for (Perot or even Buchanan would have a better chance by far in comparison!).

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and ya got some shit on yer dick there..........don't thank me for pointing it out..........EVEYONE NOTICED..........but only a good freind would tell ya ;-)

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WHAT FREE PRESS..........ummm.....what is operation mockingbird and WHO TAUGHT YOU TO BE AN IGNORING IGNORANT CUNT

CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST CIA/MEDIA VIOLATION OF FIRST AMENDMENT-RIGHT TO A FREE PRESS Petition

CIA OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD

LAWSUIT FILED IN UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT,DISTRICT OF COLORADO,CASE NO 05CV1598 OES JEFF WILLIAMSON VS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,CIA DIRECTOR PORTER GOSS, AND MEDIA DEFENDANTS-CALL NOW TO RECIEVE YOUR COPY OF LAWSUIT AND TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER PH 303-844-3433.THIS CONCERNS ALL 50 STATES AND EVERY US CITIZEN IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.YOU CAN FILE A CASE IN YOUR STATE TOO FOR FIRST AMENDMENT VIOLATIONS.

THERE IS A GLOBAL COMMERCIAL MEDIA SYSTEM DOMINATED BY A SMALL NUMBER OF SUPER-POWERFUL TRANSNATIONAL MEDIA CORPORATIONS (MOSTLY US BASED),WORKING TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF THE GLOBAL MARKETS AND THE CIA AGENDA.( CIA SECRET PROJECT CALLED "OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD"),THE CIA CONTROLLED MEDIA AND/OR MEDIA MANIPULATION IN VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT-RIGHT TO A FREE PRESS CONCERNING ALL 50 STATES AND EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

The Media

Journalism is a perfect cover for CIA agents. People talk freely to journalists, and few think suspiciously of a journalist aggressively searching for information. Journalists also have power, influence and clout. Not surprisingly, the CIA began a mission in the late 1940s to recruit American journalists on a wide scale, a mission it dubbed Operation MOCKINGBIRD. The agency wanted these journalists not only to relay any sensitive information they discovered, but also to write anti-communist, pro-capitalist propaganda when needed.

The instigators of MOCKINGBIRD were Frank Wisner, Allan Dulles, Richard Helms and Philip Graham. Graham was the husband of Katherine Graham, today’s publisher of the Washington Post. In fact, it was the Post’s ties to the CIA that allowed it to grow so quickly after the war, both in readership and influence. (8)

MOCKINGBIRD was extraordinarily successful. In no time, the agency had recruited at least 25 media organizations to disseminate CIA propaganda. At least 400 journalists would eventually join the CIA payroll, according to the CIA’s testimony before a stunned Church Committee in 1975. (The committee felt the true number was considerably higher.) The names of those recruited reads like a Who's Who of journalism:

Philip and Katharine Graham (Publishers, Washington Post)
William Paley (President, CBS)
Henry Luce (Publisher, Time and Life magazine)
Arthur Hays Sulzberger (Publisher, N.Y. Times)
Jerry O'Leary (Washington Star)
Hal Hendrix (Pulitzer Prize winner, Miami News)
Barry Bingham Sr., (Louisville Courier-Journal)
James Copley (Copley News Services)
Joseph Harrison (Editor, Christian Science Monitor)
C.D. Jackson (Fortune)
Walter Pincus (Reporter, Washington Post)
ABC
NBC
Associated Press
United Press International
Reuters
Hearst Newspapers
Scripps-Howard
Newsweek magazine
Mutual Broadcasting System
Miami Herald
Old Saturday Evening Post
New York Herald-Tribune
Perhaps no newspaper is more important to the CIA than the Washington Post, one of the nation’s most right-wing dailies. Its location in the nation’s capitol enables the paper to maintain valuable personal contacts with leading intelligence, political and business figures. Unlike other newspapers, the Post operates its own bureaus around the world, rather than relying on AP wire services. Owner Philip Graham was a military intelligence officer in World War II, and later became close friends with CIA figures like Frank Wisner, Allen Dulles, Desmond FitzGerald and Richard Helms. He inherited the Post by marrying Katherine Graham, whose father owned it.


After Philip’s suicide in 1963, Katharine Graham took over the Post. Seduced by her husband’s world of government and espionage, she expanded her newspaper’s relationship with the CIA. In a 1988 speech before CIA officials at Langley, Virginia, she stated:

We live in a dirty and dangerous world. There are some things that the general public does not need to know and shouldn’t. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows.
This quote has since become a classic among CIA critics for its belittlement of democracy and its admission that there is a political agenda behind the Post’s headlines.


Ben Bradlee was the Post’s managing editor during most of the Cold War. He worked in the U.S. Paris embassy from 1951 to 1953, where he followed orders by the CIA station chief to place propaganda in the European press. (9) Most Americans incorrectly believe that Bradlee personifies the liberal slant of the Post, given his role in publishing the Pentagon Papers and the Watergate investigations. But neither of these two incidents are what they seem. The Post merely published the Pentagon Papers after The New York Times already had, because it wanted to appear competitive. As for Watergate, we’ll examine the CIA’s reasons for wanting to bring down Nixon in a moment. Someone once asked Bradlee: "Does it irk you when The Washington Post is made out to be a bastion of slanted liberal thinkers instead of champion journalists just because of Watergate?" Bradlee responded: "Damn right it does!" (10)

It would be impossible to elaborate in this short space even the most important examples of the CIA/media alliance. Sig Mickelson was a CIA asset the entire time he was president of CBS News from 1954 to 1961. Later he went on to become president of Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty, two major outlets of CIA propaganda.

The CIA also secretly bought or created its own media companies. It owned 40 percent of the Rome Daily American at a time when communists were threatening to win the Italian elections. Worse, the CIA has bought many domestic media companies. A prime example is Capital Cities, created in 1954 by CIA businessman William Casey (who would later become Reagan’s CIA director). Another founder was Lowell Thomas, a close friend and business contact with CIA Director Allen Dulles. Another founder was CIA businessman Thomas Dewey. By 1985, Capital Cities had grown so powerful that it was able to buy an entire TV network: ABC.

For those who believe in "separation of press and state," the very idea that the CIA has secret propaganda outlets throughout the media is appalling. The reason why America was so oblivious to CIA crimes in the 40s and 50s was because the media willingly complied with the agency. Even today, when the immorality of the CIA should be an open-and-shut case, "debate" about the issue rages in the media. Here is but one example:

In 1996, The San Jose Mercury News published an investigative report suggesting that the CIA had sold crack in Los Angeles to fund the Contra war in Central America. A month later, three of the CIA’s most important media allies — The Washington Post, The New York Times and The Los Angeles Times — immediately leveled their guns at the Mercury report and blasted away in an attempt to discredit it. Who wrote the Post article? Walter Pincus, longtime CIA journalist. The dangers here are obvious.

EXAMPLE OF CIA OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD CONTROL OF MEDIA:

The Israeli Spy Ring Scandal - The Story That Will Not Go Away - Prior to 9/11, the FBI had discovered the presence of a massive spy ring inside the United States run by the government of Israel. This seems a harsh gratitude from a nation which obtains 10% of its annual budget from the American taxpayer, $3+ billion a year. ALSO CNN IS A CIA FRONT OF PROPAGANDA | CNN IS A CIA FRONT OF MEDIA PROPAGANDA AND LIES CNN & FOX PROPAGANDA

IMPORTANT TO CLICK ON AND READ THESE LINKS

PLEASE BE ADVISED YOU CAN FILE A CIVIL RIGHTS LAWSUIT IN UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT IN ANY STATE AGAINST THE USA,CIA,CIA DIRECTOR,AND THE BROADCAST AND PRINT MEDIA.THERE ARE TWO VERY GOOD WEBSITES ON "OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD" CIA's Operation Mockingbird and Operation Mockingbird: CIA Media Manipulation WHERE THE CORPORATE NAMES OF THE MEDIA ARE FOUND THAT CAN BE LISTED AS DEFENDANTS OR JUST TYPE IN "OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD" TO OBTAIN A LIST OF THE WEBSITES AND ALSO READ Operation Mockingbird and read below how the CIA public relations officer conrols the media and news to the public.

source: THE WATCHDOG GROUP MOVEMENT · US GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION AND COVERUPS WEBSITE LIST



Sincerely,

The Undersigned

YOUR NAME BETTER BE NEXT OR JUST STFU

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WHY.......... ARE YOU A NOSY CUNT AND NOT JUST A FAGGOT

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You have got to be kidding me... brain washed much? Holy cow!

So, what you are saying is that EVERY single one of his supporters is a nut case?

Just out of curiosity, who were these nut cases supporting before Ron Paul? The KKK and Nazis traditionally go republican and the rest Dem. So?

What, EXACTLY, is it about Libertarians that make them like Nazis? In your opinion of course.

Did it ever occur to you that he's being "swift-boated"? What facts and numbers do you have to back up this assertion? And by numbers I don't mean which AM radio station you listen to.

Listen, very carefully... I'll try to make this short... We are about to experience a major financial crash, why? Because we have a privately held, foreign owned federal reserve that will print as much money as we ask for... as debt. You and I are the ones responsible for paying that debt back. But it is the Debtor that holds the reigns of power.

Throughout history, the people that hold all the wealth hold the power. And so it is through their manipulation of banking, credit and corporations. The very same corporations that lobby our congressional public servants so effectively that Joe six-pack rarely comes to mind. Thus, BOTH parties are working for the same master, and it isn't "We the People".

These are also the same people that profit MOST from war. Because they control most of the worlds central banks, they don't care who is fighting who or who wins. This is not Illuminati crap, this is real life.

No one else in either party is standing up and even acknowledging these problems, much less planning to fix them. So to the beltway, ya... he's fringe. But to the American People, he has the makings to be a fucking HERO on the order of those that first brought us our freedom.

What your exalted politicians and their media mouthpieces fear most from Ron Paul, aside from breaking the money trust, is all the indictments that will rain down the day after he takes office.

I will not have my constitution stepped on any longer by ill informed, out of touch, self serving, small minded reactionaries.

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What inconsistencies do you see. He wants him gone for going to an illegal war.

He is quoting the CIA and the 911 Commissions Report, if you claim to know more than them, then please share with us why Iran is such a "threat".

We removed an elected leader of a sovereign nation, then allowed Islamists to take over. Your views are rather warped on History...



How inconsistent is that idea? Bush said no Nation Building and humble foreign policy. If you read into Ron Paul you would learn why.

He explained his appearance on Alex Jone's Show to Bill Oreilly, months ago. Can you tell me everyone whose sent money to Guilliani or even Bush or Kerry? David Duke helped raise money for a number of Republicans. I see no inconsistencies.

NeoCons is not shorthand for Jews either. Where do you get your crap?

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