some issue that concern our future,and our parents and grand parents,not let either party start pocketing money in thier wallets.hold them accountable
for thier actions.

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"I think in the election of 2004 the better educated whether it is self educated or formal education were more likely to lean towards Kerry."

This is completely untrue unless you're assuming only people who agree with you are intelligent. Fox News did a voters poll based on education, careers, and fiscal behavior. The results showed business students, business employees, the self employed, and people who invested their money overwhlemingly voted for Bush. Students of the social sciences, teachers, lawyers, etc. overwhelmingly voted for Kerry. Both of these groups are educated, they just have different ideas and values.

That study broke down the educated people who voted. The Zogby study I referrred to polled high school + 2 years of further education voted for Kerry. Those with the least education voted Bush. Also keep in mind your study was Fox news which is not in anyway relaiable or based on fact.


Also the study I sited was that it was an unusual election in 2004 because in the past slightly high levels of education voted republican and this election was the first where voters jumped party lines and the better educated voted for Kerry.

It may have impact in future elections in that only close to 38% graduate from college and of those not all are itellectuals. Factor in many intelligent people do not attend college.

I only know my world. I work at a regional medical center. It seemed those who were physcicians,R.N.s, Various therapists, in hospital administration were overwhelmingly Kerry. Many patients especially those on federal aid programs voted Bush. This was more due to religion, or gay marriage. Many of those people felt Bush was more of a "regular " guy.

Anyway let me clarify before I start a forum war that I think as a pattern people who are better informed on all issues chose Kerry but I do know many very smart people went for Bush including some on this forum.

The state I live in went 72% blue and the parts of the state where three best educated cities were the ones who went blue. Where I live in the least populace part of our state with the lowest income and levels of education my city was overwhelmingly red.


Oh and while we are on elections we use a mail in vote. I think this is the least likely to cause fraud.

I was in Ohio with a friend who was dying on election night. In the democratic area around Ohio State university they had few booths for the population and we had to wait in line for over 3 hours. Most had to drop out or did not get to vote. I think Ohio did have voter fraud by setting up a system that did not allow each party the same access to vote.

[quote=Sam]That study broke down the educated people who voted. The Zogby study I referrred to polled high school + 2 years of further education voted for Kerry. Those with the least education voted Bush. Also keep in mind your study was Fox news which is not in anyway relaiable or based on fact.

Also the study I sited was that it was an unusual election in 2004 because in the past slightly high levels of education voted republican and this election was the first where voters jumped party lines and the better educated voted for Kerry.[QUOTE SAM]



First of all, what makes the Zogby poll that much better than another poll? The Zogby polls usually started out something like "872 potential voters surveyed said . . ." Polls taken from small sample of people don't show much. It also matters where they are located. Urban vs. rural, north vs. south, etc. I usually don't put a lot of faith into polls, not that they are always wrong, but even the most accurate have a margin of error. The thing is, in many polls we don't know where they were conducted or who all they asked or what the exact questions were.

With that being said, I found a CNN poll that breaks down the voting demographics in a variety of ways. Here is what they had on educational level according to the CNN poll, which I don't claim to any better or worse than any other.

Bush Kerry
No High School (4%) 49 50
High School (22%) 52 47
Some College (32%) 54 46
College (26%) 52 46
Post Graduate (16%) 44 55

As far as voting by level of education, Kerry carried people with advanced degrees by a wide margin, and narrowly carried people who did not graduate from high school. As far as people with 2 or more years of college, based on the percentages of the voters it would seem at the very least it was a dead heat, if not going narrowly for Bush. In the various age groups, Kerry carried the 18-29 year olds, and Bush carried the rest.

I know you initially posted this because of a post in a different thread (which was made in jest), but the next statistic deals with that issue. Of people who made less than 15K a year, Kerry 63 Bush 36.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pag.../epolls.0.html

Sam, I can't get the site up from the above link. It is the right address, so I don't know what the problem is. If you can't get to the link from the post, you can google - cnn demographics for 2004 election.

I have only voted once for a Democrat and that was Carter. I remember voting for Nixon but felt that I should have voted for McGovern but refused to buck the family tradition of voting Republican in national eclection. I am a vet that would never have voted for Kerry.