I hear ya! Check this out!

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"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." Ronald Reagan http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/war...bout-iraq.html

Do you have the actual data for this plot, Smitty....I can then do some trend analysis? There do seem to be bumbs in the data near the ends of years 2004 and 2006; oddly enough, you see the same thing in 2005. In fact, if you look at each year seperately (2004, 2005, 2006), the attacks increase as you go from January through December....and they seem to do so in a similar way....although 2005 looks worse than 2004 and 2006 looks worse than 2005. It makes me wonder if these yearly trends are based on other factors that we are not considering.

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And now, I'm the Elitist of liberal Elitists...

The years will alway graduly get worse untill the surge was implimented. After all the support for the war was still falling. Once the enemy has boosted his support in opposing the USA it usually doesent go away much! The Later part of the year is also ramadan but you can tell the difference between that and the political aspect by the huge surge of enemy activity! Notice after the Petraeus report was given and democrats started to agree about the Anbar Provence the violence went down! When America backs the mission it demoralizes the enemy! When America calls for a pullout the enemy is inspired to continue!

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"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." Ronald Reagan http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/war...bout-iraq.html

There is some logic to your statement in bold...it makes sense....at least, for the insurgents that follow American politics....they want us to leave. So, I imagine there is truth to what you are saying....the question is how much truth. And again, Smitty, there are some wierd trends in that data you gave me....namely, the increase in attacks from the start of each year to the end of each year and, of course, the situation getting worse from year to the next.

You want to claim that it is mainly driven by what happens here at the home front, e.g., support for the war. I don't think I buy that, Smitty. The elections may have some impact....but, the year-to-year trends I see don't suggest a large impact. Why is the violence gotten worse year by year? Again, I'm not sure you can correlate that with growing anti-war sentiment here in the US. Could there be other more significant factors? I remember Cat discussing Vietnam and claiming that the situation in Nam got worse and worse long before the public began turning against the war there.

Why has the violence dropped in 2007? I think in part because of Patreaus....and his counter-insurgency ideas. However, there is another factor mention by Petreaus and others....Iraq has become more and more segregated. Neighborhoods in Baghdad that used to be intermingled are not very segregated....so, you possibly have out of sight...out of mind going on as well. Is that a good thing, a bad thing, or both??

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The Lone Ranger of the AWE liberal elitists.....who was that masked man???

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Uh what Counter Insurgency ideas? The Ralph Peters School of Do as the Romans..?

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Cussing out low class inbreds isnt uninteligent, its honest

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Everything you just said is total bullshit

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Ek...eature=related

I dont see how any of these Partisan need to be inspired by a TV that probbly desnt get power thanks to the Americans. I am sure Abrams and Bradleys and Hummers cruising around there streets is all they need to get themselves psyched up.

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Cussing out low class inbreds isnt uninteligent, its honest

Good typing is not inteligent its dexiteritous.

Everything you just said is total bullshit

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Ek...eature=related

Well, my understanding NYOB is that he has used a more dispersive approach; making American forces more visible and persistent. There are pluses and minuses with the approach. It's like a brush fire....you don't all want to stomp in one place and then move on to another spot....disperse your stomping. And he is also opening more dialogue with Sunni and Shia tribal leaders....which are probably the true power holders in Iraq.

Now, whether or not this will all succeed...or just postpone the inevitable, I don't know.

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Cops. He made beat cops essentialy then. Thats sounds about right for his backround. I dont know...

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Cussing out low class inbreds isnt uninteligent, its honest

Good typing is not inteligent its dexiteritous.

Everything you just said is total bullshit

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Ek...eature=related

It's probably a smarter approach...just may be too little...too late.

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