Well, I guess people are very busy. It's funny, the right seems to be more enamored of liberal blogging sites (see gix's post) than the left is. I've never visited one unless directed by a link.

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Ah, let's see. What's that phrase you always use? Got it: Just more neocon talking points.

The only salient point you make is big crayon fonts can be seen easier by people who have astigmatism...now, back to your regular programming.

Its not at all working. Desperate is defintly your middle name. This wont be fixed by ignoring the death and singing zippity do da.

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Good typing is not inteligent its dexiteritous.

Everything you just said is total bullshit

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Ek...eature=related

What death is that which some want to ignore and go back to business as usual.....9/11...the bombings in Spain.....England.....the riots in France...the daily violence in Iraq.....for a peaceful religion they sure wish to ignore a lot of death and violence....to say "UNCLE". Just when did you hear them say it. I didn't think so.....Unless die you SOBs is some type of code for I quit, now just stop it, we won't bomb your women and children anymore due to the facts we don't have the gonads to confront our enemy the way the real "Muhammad" did....the modern day ass pimples just don't have the guts. BD

Military cassualties. Iraqi cassulites. The never ending impossible nature of enforcing a goverment against the collective will of a 3 sepereate nations whom all are cpaable and willing to resist it. The incalucablle tragedy of a stagnet and useless war that only result will be more of the same. Thats whats being ignored.

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Cussing out low class inbreds isnt uninteligent, its honest

Good typing is not inteligent its dexiteritous.

Everything you just said is total bullshit

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Ek...eature=related

Hey fellas. Long time no see. Just wanted to stop by and say I told ya so. As a Marine who served in Ar Ramadi Iraq(The capitol of the Al Anbar Provence) I told ya that we were kickin ass. And Look at Anbar now. Now I know this may upset some liberals that there actually may be peace and stability in an area that was the most violent place in Iraq but hey, I told ya so!

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Iraq Militias Fighting for Supremacy

By CHARLES CRAIN/BAGHDAD
2 hours, 2 minutes ago



In his speech Tuesday to the American Legion President Bush proclaimed, "For all those who ask whether the fight in Iraq is worth it, imagine an Iraq where militia groups backed by Iran control large parts of the country." That doesn't take a vivid imagination, however - the reality on the ground is that Iran-backed militias and their political allies already control large parts of the country. And as this week's violence in Karbala demonstrates, those militias are fighting each other for supremacy as U.S. and British influence wanes.

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The sporadic clashes broke out Monday night in the Shi'ite holy city, which was packed with pilgrims celebrating the birth of a revered 9th century imam. Gunmen from radical cleric Moqtada Sadr's Mahdi Army were operating as a security force for the pilgrims, whose periodic marches to Shi'ite shrines attract attacks from Sunni insurgents. Once in the city, though, the militia clashed with gunmen of the Badr Organization, the armed wing of the rival Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council (SIIC).


Violence escalated Tuesday, with Mahdi Army fighters scattered amongst angry crowds firing assault rifles and rocket-propelled grenades at Badr militiamen. That fighting reportedly began with Mahdi Army attacks on the local police. But in Karbala, as in many cities in southern Iraq, the local police are simply uniformed members of the local militia.


As the fighting continued, Karbala was put under curfew, pilgrims were ordered to leave the city, and Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki ordered in government troops to restore order. But fighting between Badr and the Mahdi Army broke out in other Shi'ite cities and in Shi'ite neighborhoods of Baghdad. The death toll, which already reaches into the dozens, is expected to rise as more bodies are recovered in Karbala.


Bringing the militias to heel is no easy task, considering that it's not clear that the supposed leaders can even control their own fighters. On Wednesday a spokesman announced that Sadr was freezing his militia for six months to bring rogue elements under control. It's difficult to imagine that Sadr would willingly neutralize the militia that aided his rise to prominence in 2004 and has been an important asset in his difficult and often violent relationship with the government and other Shi'ite factions. More likely he is responding to the bad publicity resulting from the scuttling of the commemoration in Karbala. He responded in similar fashion to this year's U.S. troop surge, pledging his full cooperation. As Americans in Shi'ite areas of Iraq can attest, the gap between Sadr's rhetoric and the actions of his militia is often vast.


Sadr's cagey response to the violence underscores that the armed groups battling in Karbala and other Shi'ite areas aren't simply external forces the government must bring under control - they are, in essence, the government. SIIC and the Sadrists dominate Maliki's increasingly tenuous parliamentary majority. And, while the militias had more than enough fighters on hand in Karbala to spark serious violence, the central government had to bring in reinforcements from outside the area to reassert control.


Meanwhile, the continuing American and British policy is to draw down, not increase, their military presence in southern Iraq. The British are in the midst of pulling out of the port city of Basra. The long-standing American policy has been to defer to Shi'ite religious sensibilities and keep as low a profile as possible in holy cities like Karbala and Najaf.


In what one senior American military official called a "schizophrenic" policy, Iran offers support both to the Mahdi Army and to SIIC, even as they fight each other. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad added insult to injury this week by observing that the Americans were leaving a power vacuum in Iraq that Iran and other nations would be glad to fill. The Iranian strategy of playing both sides may not be tenable in the long-term, but for now it gives Iran influence in southern Iraq that must be the envy of both the Americans and Iraqi politicians in Baghdad.

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Cussing out low class inbreds isnt uninteligent, its honest

Good typing is not inteligent its dexiteritous.

Everything you just said is total bullshit

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Ek...eature=related

Shiit holy city? Karbala? This is not the Anbar provence (AKA SUNNI TRIANGLE) which was the most violent provence in Iraq. These are the less violent parts of Iraq that took back stage to the Anbar provence before it became a great success. Now that Anbar is working people are quick to report death eltswhere. Yes there is violence in Iraq. SURPRISE!!. however you would be shallow minded to not admit to the dramatic drop in violence in Iraq.

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