Thread: Demography racism

Originally Posted by houseknight

The Mahmoud Abbas' reason to delay talks are ongoing elections in PA. He cannot make moves which may aggravate his lack of popularity among Palestinians.

Well, he screwed that up brilliantly, didn't he? He now has even less popularity among Palestinians, and has given impetus to a rapprochement between Fat'h and Hamas; which, judging by the hysterics coming from your side, must be good.

http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default...=178&nid=19799

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 Israel Today Staff

Arabs attack Jews in Jerusalem, police do nothing

A group of Arabs and their left-wing Jewish allies verbally and physically attacked a Jewish family moving into a new home in a small Jewish community on the eastern side of Jerusalem on Tuesday.

The family had recently bought an apartment in the Shimon Hatzadik neighborhood, where Israeli anarchists and local Arabs have set up a protest tent against what they call "settlement activity."

Shortly after arriving, one of the family's male members was physically attacked by the protesters. A friend who accompanied the family demanded that nearby police intervene, but they refused. According to Israel National News, the police only stepped in when more family members came to the victim's aid. However, the police response was to arrest the "settlers," not the protesters who had viciously beaten one of the new residents.
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My note:
Thousands of Arab families purchase currently apartaments in almost all Israeli cities with predominantly Jewish population. Simultaneously, the "human rights defenders" accuse Israel for "apartheid" and prevent Jews from settling in predominantly Arab neighborhoods. Probably, the Jews aren't humans, thus they (we) needn't human rights...

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/134149

Cheshvan 13, 5770, 31 October 09 08:19by Gil Ronen(Israelnationalnews.com)

Under pressure from the United States, Israel has been discussing and at least partially implementing a freeze on construction in Yehudah and Shomron (Judea and Samaria), its mountainous heartland. The PA Arab authority there, meanwhile, is doing the the opposite, gearing up for a building drive in areas designated as 'Area C' in the Oslo agreements – even though these areas are under Israeli security and administrative control.

To this end, the PA has been conducting intensive negotiations with the relevant financial institutions and is close to an agreement with banks and contractors for kicking off a large construction drive in two months' time. Speaking with Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper Saturday, PA Minister of Housing and Public Works Muhammad Shatia said that his office would build in “all Palestinian areas” including Area C, because these are “Palestinian territories despite the Israeli control over them.”

Following the PA government's initiative, he said, his office has received more than 50,000 requests for housing units in Area C and it will begin construction, as a first phase, in Shechem and Kalkilya. The apartments are to be marketed at attractive rates because they are being built on what he designated “government lands.”

This activity is part of the policy of strengthening the PA's hold in Area C. At a groundbreaking ceremony for a hospital near Bethlehem this week, PA Prime Minister Salam Fayad said that the PA does not see any difference between Areas A, B or C, and that it objects to the Israel claim that Area C is a disputed zone. “While Israel invades A Areas by military force, we invade C Areas through construction,” he explained.

My note:
Palestinian Authority's demand to freeze Jewish construction in the West Bank, implemented by the USA administration, is fundamentally racist. The freeze has already caused jump of accomodation prices which harms first of all young couples chance to arrange their life. At the bottom line, the Palestinians' demand is the means to force emigration of the Jews.

Originally Posted by houseknight

[url]My note:
Palestinian Authority's demand to freeze Jewish construction in the West Bank, implemented by the USA administration, is fundamentally racist. The freeze has already caused jump of accomodation prices which harms first of all young couples chance to arrange their life. At the bottom line, the Palestinians' demand is the means to force emigration of the Jews.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/134473

Barkat Cries 'Racism' on U.S. Demand to Stop Building for Jews
Cheshvan 30, 5770, 17 November 09 07:22by Gil Ronen(Israelnationalnews.com) Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat blasted the reported U.S. demand to block Jewish construction in Jerusalem and said he would never allow a move to block construction for either Arabs or Jews anywhere in the city.

"Israeli law does not discriminate between Jews and Arabs and between east and west [Jerusalem],” the mayor emphasized. “The demand to specifically halt construction for Jews is not legal in the U.S. or in any other enlightened country in the world.”

"I cannot imagine the American administration demanding a halt to construction in the U.S. based upon race, religion or sex, and the attempt to demand this of Jerusalem constitutes a double standard and is unacceptable,” he added. “The Jerusalem Municipality will continue to enable construction in all parts of the city to both Arabs and Jews based, with one law for all.”

According to a report in the Israeli press Tuesday, U.S. Middle East envoy George Mitchell asked Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu to freeze a construction project in Gilo, but Netanyahu turned him down.

Originally Posted by houseknight

US Democratic lawmakers say Abbas biggest impediment to peace

Thursday, August 13, 2009 Israel Today Staff

US Democratic lawmakers say Abbas biggest impediment to peace

A large delegation of 29 US Democratic lawmakers said during a press conference in Jerusalem on Thursday that they view Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas as the biggest current impediment to peace in the region.

"I think the largest thing impeding the negotiations at this point is simply the unwillingness of Abbas to sit down [with the Israelis]," said House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD).
Abbas has refused to hold any high level negotiations with Israeli since Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu took office over four months ago. Abbas says he will not talk to the Israeli until all Jewish construction in Judea and Samaria comes to a halt.

But Hoyer called the current focus on the natural growth of Jewish settlements a "marginal" issue that is being way overblown by Abbas, the US administration and the international media.

"The issue of natural growth in the settlements has become a large part of the story, when really it is a marginal aspect of the peace process," said Hoyer.
The remarks were seen as a further rejection of the way US President Barack Obama is handling the Middle East peace process. Barak and US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have made overriding pressure on Israel to stop the growth of Jewish settlements the centerpiece of their peace policy, while largely ignoring ongoing violent actions and rhetoric on the part of the Palestinians.

My note: For last 60 years, the international community made all possible efforts to facilitate Palestinian natural growth. The UN maintains special apparatus called UNRWA, devoted to single purpose, to accomodate unlimited growth of Palestinian population. The success is dramatic: 700%-increase in number of Palestinians in Gaza, 500% at the West Bank etc. (By the way UNRWA, not Israel, is main responsible for humanitarian crisis in Gaza).
But the politically correct ends where the international community starts with the Jews. Jewish natural growth is just unwanted. Ethnic cleansing is generally bad, but expulsion of the Jews from the West Bank is just good. The future Palestinian state at the West Bank must be Judenfrei. Heil Hitler!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
this article is impressingly funny,
The Israelis are slowly but surely consuming and building in what left of Palestine and they wanna sit down and talk? and abbas is the greatest impediment to peace talks.
is it me or ......, it just does not compute, this is unbelievable, I give up, are this people taking the piss outta themselves or the Palestinians,
Israelis and other zionist Jews by their actions and their words are sewing the seeds of Israels destruction. Not a question of if, its a question of when?

Originally Posted by 36shadow

Ya exactly why would you murdering bastards sit down with a peaceful nation like israel when all you want to do is see them eliminated from the face of the earth.

Your prepaid brain was a ripoff. Go and ask for a refund or just throw in the toillet.

A Historical Survey of Proposals to
Transfer Arabs from Palestine
1895 - 1947

by

Rabbi Dr. Chaim Simons

chaimsimons@gmail.com

http://chaimsimons.net/transfer.html

http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=18448

November 20, 2009
Clinton is wrong about demography
Yoram Ettinger, YNET

On November 15, 2009, former President Clinton stated in Jerusalem: “Two things remain unchanged since 1993 – geography and demographics. Palestinians have more children than Israelis can have or import.”

Clinton’s intentions are positive. However, he is mistaken and misleading, while trying to convince Israelis to support a policy (withdrawal to the 1967 lines), which could determine the fate of the Jewish State: Oblivion or survival.

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In contrast to Clinton’s statement, Israel’s Jewish demography has been enhanced since 1993. A solid and a long-term 67% Jewish majority, west of the Jordan River (without Gaza) is documented by birth, death and migration records of the Palestinian Health and Education Ministry and Election Commission, as well as Israel’s Border Police (which acts like the American INS), the World Bank and the Israeli and Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics. In 2009, the Jewish population benefits from a substantial demographic tailwind, which could expand its majority.

And, here are the facts:

According to Israel’s Central Bureau of Statistics, the number of annual Jewish births has increased by 45% from 1995 (80,400) to 2008 (117,000), in spite the cuts of child allowances – a global rarity. The number of Arab births within pre-1967 Israel has stabilized, around 39,000, during the same period.

The Jewish tailwind has persisted during the first eight months of 2009: 77,797 Jewish births, which amount to over 75% of total births within pre-1967 Israel, compared with 69% in 1995.
The significant decline in Arab fertility rate reflects a significantly improved standard of living, resulting from successful integration into Israel’s infrastructures of health, education, employment, commerce, politics, media, sports, culture and the arts. The Arab-Jewish fertility gap was reduced from six births per woman in 1969 to 0.7 in 2008.

The Jewish secular sector – and especially the Olim (immigrants) from the USSR – is chiefly responsible for the upward trend of Jewish demography. The one million Soviet Olim arrived with a typical Russian fertility rate of one birth per woman, but they have adopted the typical secular Jewish fertility rate of 2-3 births per woman. In addition, Israel’s yuppies are switching over from the European rate of 1-2 births to 3-4 births per woman.

A September 2006 World Bank survey of education in Judea, Samaria and Gaza documented a 32% distortion of Arab births by the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics. According to the Bank, the Arab demographic decline resulted from a drop in fertility and a rise in emigration.

The decline in Arab population growth follows a 20-year surge, which was a result of the post-1967 access to Israel’s health infrastructure. The decline has been caused by urbanization (from a 70% rural to a 70% urban population in Judea and Samaria), unprecedented expansion of the education system, especially among women, and family planning.

Net-emigration has accelerated the fall of the Arab population growth rate in Judea and Samaria. From 1950 to 2009, there have been only six years of net-immigration. Net-emigration skyrocketed during the 1950-1967 Jordanian occupation, slowed down drastically following 1967, in response to the enhancement of health, education and employment, surged as a result of the 2000 Intifada and shifted to a higher gear in 2006, due to the rise of Hamas and the Hamas-PLO war.

The Arab fertility rate in Judea and Samaria declined to four births per woman and is trending downward. According to the UN Population Division, the decline typifies all Muslim countries other than Afghanistan and Yemen. For example, Jordan (a “twin-sister” of Judea and Samaria) has three births per woman, Iran – 1.7, Egypt – 2.5, Syria – 3.5 and Algeria – 1.8 births per woman.
The Judea and Samaria Arab population of 1.55 million – and not 2.5 million as claimed by the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics – was documented in December 2008: a 66% distortion!
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My notes:
1.At the bottom line, whole Arab more than 100-year-long crusade against Jewish presence in the Middle East aims to expel the Jews by all possible means. The means were: 4 "total" wars, cross-border raids, Intifadas, Saddam's rocket terror, Oslo terror, Hizbullah's rocket terror, HAMAS' Cassam terror, economic boycott, and, finally, Iranian nuclear intimidation. Common denominator of all these means is demography overturn due to Jewish emigration and decline of the Jewish population. The goal is obvious: to turn Jews minority, then to dissolve Jewish state.
2.Most striking impression I got from my rare visits to Samaria, were large rural spaces empty of people, along with relatively big densely populated towns. The Galilean rural areas where I visit frequently, are populated much more densely, than the West Bank.

I came across an interview published in the Guardian with Adrian Agassi, an Israeli military judge.

He had immigrated to Palestine from Britain following the occupation of Palestine, and now oversees the confiscation of Palestinian homes and their demolition in order to build housing units for Israeli settlers in Jerusalem and the occupied territories.

In the interview, Agassi said that Israel has a biblical claim to territory beyond its borders, that Israel is "given to us by the Bible, not by some United Nations", and that settling Jews on lands that made up ancient Israel stands above all other biblical commandments and that they, even as immigrants, have a right to live on it when those born there do not.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/134735

Hareidim Moving to Secular Jerusalem Neighborhoods
Kislev 15, 5770, 02 December 09 01:30by Hillel Fendel(Israelnationalnews.com)

The housing shortage in Jerusalem is leading increasingly more hareidi-religious families to move in to neighborhoods heretofore known as “secular,” warns Chaim Miller, Chairman of the hareidi “Movement for Jerusalem and its Residents.” Within a few years, he says, “a major demographic change will come over these neighborhoods.”

“It is a direct result of the frustration that is so prevalent in the hareidi public,” Miller told Ladaat.net, “in light of the freeze ordered by Prime Minister Netanyahu, and in light of the court decisions [blocking] the new housing tenders in Beit Shemesh.”

Netanyahu Blocks Jerusalem Construction
“Tenders for hareidi housing apartments in N’vei Yaakov, Pisgat Ze’ev, Givat Ze’ev, Tel Tzion and Beitar Illit have been frozen by municipal bodies by direct order of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s office,” Miller said. “This is the basis and source of the phenomenon we see happening in front of our eyes.”

Just last week, as well, the Jerusalem District Court accepted a petition by members of the Beit Shemesh Municipal Council to freeze bids on a hareidi-religious housing project in the city. A meeting between the parties in the dispute is planned for next week.

Miller listed Beit HaKerem, Kiryat Yovel, Kiryat Menachem, Rechavia, the German Colony and Talbieh as neighborhoods that are becoming increasingly hareidi. “This is not a phenomenon that should be welcomed,” Miller said candidly, “and it can be stopped by decisions that will enable the hareidi public to build appropriate neighborhoods for itself.”

“Blocking the natural development of the hareidi public will not succeed,” Miller continued. “It might be temporarily delayed by nuisance court petitions of one type of another, or because of political decisions rooted in American pressure. But things are happening ‘on the ground,’ and they bypass the impediments, and we see what’s happening in the Jerusalem neighborhoods. If Mayor Nir Barkat doesn’t apply pressure on the Prime Minister and make sure to unfreeze the appropriate alternatives, the hareidi presence in the secular neighborhoods will simply get stronger.”