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03-06-2007, 10:45 AM
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No hope for the future, who said anything about hope??? You asked if the death and destruction will end in the Middle East. . . the MIDDLE EAST. You can hope we leave the area but that will not stop the death and destruction and to think otherwise is lunacy.
I know you can't seriously believe the death and destruction will end in the Middle East, and this is more or less antoher way of expressing your feelings toward the war.
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You're right on both counts. Death and Destruction will probably never end in the Middle East. And "Yes" it is a statement for my feelings about the war.
I just wish that we were out of there.
One must always strive to have hope.
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03-06-2007, 10:49 AM
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03-06-2007, 10:51 AM
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You're right on both counts. Death and Destruction will probably never end in the Middle East. And "Yes" it is a statement for my feelings about the war.
I just wish that we were out of there.
One must always strive to have hope.
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Hope is a neccessary emotion in life, just so long it does not cause disillusionment.
For what it's worth, I wish we would be able to leave as well. I just don't think the Iraqis are ready to face the problems that have evolved in the region.
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03-06-2007, 10:54 AM
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Hope is a neccessary emotion in life, just so long it does not cause disillusionment.
I think the Bush Admin. hoped it would have gone better.
For what it's worth, I wish we would be able to leave as well. I just don't think the Iraqis are ready to face the problems that have evolved in the region.
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Agreed. We're not going to fix it over there.
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03-06-2007, 10:55 AM
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Though I do believe in a forgiving and loving God, I do believe that you need to give things a shot here on Earth before you die and/or kill yourself.
So their future in Uday's Iraq would be to shut the F up and more on. They'd be slaves to the Government and the whim of an evil leader...but they'd be alive.
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Have you ever heard the quote "give me liberty or give me death" ? These are words I live by . The thing that frightens me is , you have stated that you are going to be a police officer . If you do not believe in the basic right of a man to live free , what are you going to do to your suspects ? What in the hell are they teaching you guys in school these days ? It sure as hell is not history . If the US was looking at becoming a dictatorship , you had better believe I would fight to the death before I would shut the fuck up !
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03-06-2007, 11:50 AM
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According to the military things are actually getting better in Iraq.
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03-06-2007, 11:55 AM
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And their future in Uday's Iraq would be ?
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>>>Not much different than Maliki's 'present', except that under Uday, the ethnic cleansing would be over.
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03-06-2007, 11:59 AM
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"I just don't think the Iraqis are ready to face the problems that have evolved in the region."
>>>Yeah, like that 'evolution' wasn't brought on by the neocons.
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03-06-2007, 12:06 PM
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"I just don't think the Iraqis are ready to face the problems that have evolved in the region."
>>>Yeah, like that 'evolution' wasn't brought on by the neocons.
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I'm saying the problems that people faced before was different from what they are facing now. And yes, our invasion has brought that evolution about, but we are not the ones targeting civilians with suicide bombers.
I think at this point, George, we should stop argueing about why or how we invaded and focus on exit strategies. Immediate pull-out is not the answer.
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03-06-2007, 12:06 PM
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And their future in Uday's Iraq would be ?
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Politically motiivated concern for life happenes only when convient.
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