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Old 02-27-2007, 11:58 AM
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Sorry but when you say I have got, what relevance do you hold in this international dispute? Are you an international negotiator or Ambassador? If not why posit this discussion about such a small minded & myopic statement as relevance to self?

Doesn't make sense.
I've noticed sometimes you are very eloquent and at other times I have no idea what you are saying. This time I have no idea what you are saying.
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:02 PM
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I've noticed sometimes you are very eloquent and at other times I have no idea what you are saying. This time I have no idea what you are saying.
Fair. I can be an idiot with the best of them!

I guess you weren't clear enough for me to grasp what you meant so I responded as best I understood this,

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I'm not here to argue with them. I'm here for good information. If the signal to noise ratio is low I blot them out. It's a matter of how much time I have got.
Maybe you could clarify so I could get back on point with your perspective.
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:23 PM
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I'm not here to argue with them. I'm here for good information. If the signal to noise ratio is low I blot them out. It's a matter of how much time I have got.
Bullshit. From the looks of your posts you are here to argue with people and you don't want them to argue back. Hint: that isn't really argueing. If someone doesn't agree with you, you ignore them so that you won't be forced to actually deal with their argument. You haven't been very impressive to say the least.

As far as how much time you have, you average 40 posts per day.
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:29 PM
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Maybe you could clarify so I could get back on point with your perspective.
Thanks. Though this website's name is "Argue With Everyone" we all have different interpretations of what exactly "Argue" means. To me it means it's ok to have an opposing idea but you need to back it up. You also need to acknowledge the other's facts. I don't really care if they say I'm a bozo and the spawn of satan because if they give good facts about something, with references when needed, I'm happy.

Some people though don't think of this as an argument. They think an argument is just bashing the other person with contrived scenarios based on propaganda. These people I have little patience with. They may get lucky ever so often and point out something interesting. To them though this is not the focus. These people I put on my ignore list and say they have low signal to noise ratios.

Whenever somebody is giving these people, the low signal to noise people, too much credit and time I get worried and recommend they squelch instead of reply. I don't want somebody who is contributing useful information to get burned out replying to people who don't understand or appreciate it. It reminds me of the old addage about not fighting with pigs just because they offend you.
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Old 02-27-2007, 01:02 PM
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Rob everyone knows that IRAN has been arming the insurgents.... I think the question is what are we going to do about it....


I post these Iranian weapon connection articles to see if maybee just maybee the lefty's would finally stop being part of the problem and start being part of the solution...
>>>And everyone knows that the U.S. has been funneling cash to the Sunni insurgents (through Saudi Arabia) so that they can arm themselves. Ahhh, yes, what tangled webs you assholes weave.
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Old 02-27-2007, 01:12 PM
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Has anyone ever noticed? When any source of authority is quoted, it generally comes from the same end of the gene pool as the one that's trying to get their point across. Never is any Independent opinion is offered, as to lead one to actually consider the point. BD
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Has anyone ever noticed? When any source of authority is quoted, it generally comes from the same end of the gene pool as the one that's trying to get their point across. Never is any Independent opinion is offered, as to lead one to actually consider the point. BD
Post Script after thought; What I'm saying is, show me a smoking gun and at least two eye witnesses and I'll jump on board.
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Has anyone ever noticed? When any source of authority is quoted, it generally comes from the same end of the gene pool as the one that's trying to get their point across. Never is any Independent opinion is offered, as to lead one to actually consider the point. BD
I try to, bluedog....I usually stick to official government sources/data, but not always. Of course, if you believe in government conspiracies, those probably won't do the trick.
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I try to, bluedog....I usually stick to official government sources/data, but not always. Of course, if you believe in government conspiracies, those probably won't do the trick.
People quote the sources they most believe in. For instance if our government were to say anything I wouldn't believe them. Watch the video in my signature to see all the out right lies that have been told to us by this administration and it become obvious why I wouldn't believe anything from our government without finding sources I trust to corroborate them.
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Old 02-27-2007, 01:29 PM
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Thanks. Though this website's name is "Argue With Everyone" we all have different interpretations of what exactly "Argue" means. To me it means it's ok to have an opposing idea but you need to back it up. You also need to acknowledge the other's facts. I don't really care if they say I'm a bozo and the spawn of satan because if they give good facts about something, with references when needed, I'm happy.

Some people though don't think of this as an argument. They think an argument is just bashing the other person with contrived scenarios based on propaganda. These people I have little patience with. They may get lucky ever so often and point out something interesting. To them though this is not the focus. These people I put on my ignore list and say they have low signal to noise ratios.

Whenever somebody is giving these people, the low signal to noise people, too much credit and time I get worried and recommend they squelch instead of reply. I don't want somebody who is contributing useful information to get burned out replying to people who don't understand or appreciate it. It reminds me of the old addage about not fighting with pigs just because they offend you.


Ya I see & respect your perspective. I guess this is as good a place as any to share my perspective with AWE or any arguing forum. I first approach it from the point of view of writing. I get a real joy from word smithing. I love to have a good discussion with someone over opinions, perspectives & ideas. Where I guess I differ from you is that if someone makes as you would say distracting points in an argument, I take at it as an opportunity to play with words. I don't take it personally & actually it doesn't distract me from what ever point I need to make. It's just about fun & the funny. In reality I find most things humorous.

I don't take this too seriously. I care about opinions & points of view. If they become trite name calling. I take it as an opportunity to expand my creative responses. It becomes an exercise in using my mind creatively. Plus even the worst person in one's opinion of them occasionally has interesting & thoughtful things to say. To narrow ones connections because of isolated statements really shows the brittleness in ones own personality.

So you may shut out those that don't fit your criteria & that's fine you have every right too, obviously but I think at the end of all things you narrow your own experience. For example the two on this thread you have cut off Dom1 & Kix. Each have moments of great insight. To be accurate I would not put Dom1 in the same category he often has very thought out & good opinions.
You've been here a short period of time & like all things topics move seasonally from one line trite crap to really thoughtful discourse. When one of those takes place Dom1 is right there with a strong & valid perspective.

Kix can have great opinions but often times one has to way through a lot of cynical snide & rather mean spirited comments before you can get to the diamond underneath him. But that's okay I have fun responding to him in kind when he does that because I find that aspect of him absurd.

So I can exercise my mind. So there Kix.
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