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Old 09-27-2006, 07:47 PM
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06/12/2006 When you say, “Support the troops,” what you really mean is “Don’t criticize this war.” When you say, “Don’t criticize this war,” what you’re really saying is, “Fuck the troops.”

I’m an American. I love my country and want the best for its future because it’s my future, my family’s. There is no other country quite the same nor as free though I don’t think it’s nearly free enough but that’s a cat for another skinning.

The troops are not protecting me, my family, or my country. Iraq was no threat to the US. The President, his puppeteers, and a chorus of sycophants filtered, distorted, and manipulated the information at hand to suggest otherwise. It was lies. You heard half of them yourself. The whole incident, the whole cabal, will be remembered as a horrifying joke. Historians will run races against James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, and George W Bush to select the worst US President in history.

The troops are not eliminating terrorism. They are spawning it. Massive amounts of it. There were no terrorists to speak of in Iraq before the war. It’s now a breeding ground for it. Just like Afghanistan was when Russia invaded there in 1979 and the CIA propped up freedom fighters. One you know by name: Osama bin Laden.

The troops are hurting me. They’re taking my tax dollars to live 6,000 miles away and expend expensive ordnance. They’re making it unsafe for me to lay my American passport down when I travel in places like Indonesia or Africa. They’re teaching the world that American soldiers can shoot an unarmed, wounded man to death on camera and it’s not a crime. They’re implying to the world that I somehow support that instead of lynching the morons who get away with it.

The troops are hurting Iraq. Hussein was a beast but he was, of late, a stable and relatively innocuous one. The Baghdad morgue is taking in more than 1,000 murder victims a month and the number has been steadily rising since the war started. It’s also a minimum because many murders go unreported and unrecognized. This is a single city in Iraq where 20,000 civilians will be murdered this year. It will be called civil unrest but 20,000 dead in one city is a combination of anarchy and civil war. In New York City, 1.6 times more populous than Baghdad, there will be around 600 murders this year.

The troops are decent men killing innocent people because the situation backs them into corners they can shoot through but can’t see around. They’re getting hammered with things that cause post traumatic stress in strong men. As the news from Abu Ghraib, Ishaqi, Haditha, and even the American soil of Guantanamo Bay suggests, they’re being turned into monsters by these forced situations.

Far above reasonable averages, they’re coming home to divorces. They’re coming home unemployable, unable to function in normal society; damaged goods, psychological splatter damage. They’re coming home to kill their wives. They’re coming home to kill themselves. They’re even coming home with the potential to be the exact thing they’re supposedly stopping, the worst single terrorist we’ve had.

The price you think the war is exacting on them isn’t just a couple of body bags stuffed in flag-wrapped oak boxes a day. The price of this is a book of blank checks without so much as an expiration date. Stop signing them.

Support the troops? Bring them the fuck home and give everyone who wants it an honorable discharge so they can get back to taking care of America in person. Then everyone here could support them in ways that aren’t a twisted piece of jingoism tied to bumpers with yellow ribbons.
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Old 09-27-2006, 08:49 PM
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The troops are deployed for one thing and one thing only and that is to protect America and her interest. Sometimes it is in the best interest of America to put troops in harms way.

What is best for the troops is not always what is best for America. What one must do to truly support the troops is wish them victory and support their mission.
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Old 09-27-2006, 09:21 PM
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The troops are deployed for one thing and one thing only and that is to protect America and her interest. Sometimes it is in the best interest of America to put troops in harms way.

What is best for the troops is not always what is best for America. What one must do to truly support the troops is wish them victory and support their mission.
Yes, blind support and no debate. Get your yellow ribbon and join the other sheeple. Not me. I prefer to think for myself. Besides, in who's best interest do we have troops dying in Iraq. If you can't see that at least this president is incompetent; at best he is just a liar. Your ilk cheered as GWB sent our troops to a desert 5000 miles away to die, all the while the terrorist threat is growing. Better more troops die than admit we liberals were right, huh? The blood of 2700 soldiers and 43,000 Iraqis is on your hands.
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The troops are deployed for one thing and one thing only and that is to protect America and her interest. Sometimes it is in the best interest of America to put troops in harms way.

What is best for the troops is not always what is best for America. What one must do to truly support the troops is wish them victory and support their mission.
Yes, you are correct, sometimes it is most certainly necessary for the troops to be in "Harm's Way", Iraq fails that important factor. It has never been in the best interest of America to go to war, just to pad the pockets of a few parasites.
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Just please don't say you support the troops and not the war. What a silly way to make oneself feel better about not supporting the troops.
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:35 AM
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Excellent post. I support coalition forces stay in Iraq until an Iraqi judicial system is properly running, (ie: as not as Saddam's new judges brother getting killed) We need to get new coalition forces forces in there instead of rotating ones.

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The troops are deployed for one thing and one thing only and that is to protect America and her interest. Sometimes it is in the best interest of America to put troops in harms way.

What is best for the troops is not always what is best for America. What one must do to truly support the troops is wish them victory and support their mission.
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Excellent post. I support coalition forces stay in Iraq until an Iraqi judicial system is properly running, (ie: as not as Saddam's new judges brother getting killed) We need to get new coalition forces forces in there instead of rotating ones.
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Yes, blind support and no debate. Get your yellow ribbon and join the other sheeple. Not me. I prefer to think for myself. Besides, in who's best interest do we have troops dying in Iraq. If you can't see that at least this president is incompetent; at best he is just a liar. Your ilk cheered as GWB sent our troops to a desert 5000 miles away to die, all the while the terrorist threat is growing. Better more troops die than admit we liberals were right, huh? The blood of 2700 soldiers and 43,000 Iraqis is on your hands.
gratefuldawg, first off I have never said that Bush and his adminstration didn't make mistakes. Our military is the junkyard dog setting on the porch, just waiting for the boss to say sicem. As long as they are in Iraq fighting the terrorists, we are safe.

Do you think that they will stop hating us or not want to kill Americans, if we just bring the troops home?
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Dizzy, did you not get the jest of what the lady said, that more coalition forces take the unneeded pressure off of our troops. do you not want our troops to have help?

You are so intent on seeing others say what you want them to say that you can't read what is in front of you. Stop looking through your vail of hate. It becomes you.
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Old 09-30-2006, 03:22 PM
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Noting where this article came from (sedition.com) and the actual title to it (which I won't repeat) should tell anyone with any degree of intelligence just how much truth there is to it and how much good was intended to come from it. It is nothing more than a continuation of the same politically based hate we've been hearing all along.

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