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Bloody Passovers of Dr Toaff – follow up
The storm caused by publication of Dr Toaff’s book Passovers of Blood is not abating. The tortured and almost crucified professor Toaff is forced to a new act of repentance on daily basis. Haaretz reported that now “He now wants to make it clear that the Jews of Trent did not murder Simon or any other Christian children for ritual purposes. Toaff will also make it clear that the blood of dead Christians could not possibly have been used, whether in food, beverages or for medicinal or magical purposes, because the blood traded by Jews and Christians at the time came from living donors, not corpses. His conclusion is that Jews could not possibly have murdered Christian children for their blood.” If they would turn the screw a bit more, Toaff would confess he murdered St Simon personally in order to place the blame on blameless Jews.
Israeli parliament (Knesset) plans to send Dr Toaff to jail. Holocaust denial is already criminal offence; but denial of Trent horror is a duty. Negationist, or denier, is now a term for a Jew who denies the blood sacrifices. This and other interesting items are available in Italian in
http://www.mastermatteimedioriente.it/pdf/toaff.pdf on the site of our daring Italian friend Claudio Moffa.
Before continuing with coverage, let us see the readers’ letters:
Ian Buckley wrote:
Like a chill wind from the past - so it was true after all, in larger or smaller part.
But it must have been true - or why else would Burton's last book have been suppressed for 100 years? Or why else would the shrine of the boy Hugh of Lincoln be surreptiously dismantled by the Dean and Chapter of Lincoln Cathedral? More on little Hugh of Lincoln : around 4 or 5 years ago, I remember a news story about some good old British 'eccentric' who was arrested after distributing leaflets about the case. But the trial for this 'crime' never took place as it was suddenly decided on high that it would 'not be in the public interest to proceed'.
The court rolls relating to the original 1255 case are still closed I believe. While some of the accused were hanged after the trial - held in part in front of Henry III himself - others were acquitted and set free, which hardly squares with the concept of mob justice. Torture was not used on the defendants, either.
Maybe it should best be viewed as the consequence of an ideology. But it no way should individual Jews who don't share or uphold that ideology be blamed. There is another side. Adam, I recently saw an old film ' A Kid for Two Farthings' which was obviously almost wholly Jewish in its milieu and background. It depicted a world which was so very much more human and normal in every way than the sleazy, mad and degenerate Britain of Bliar. Likewise, one of my favourite singers, Alma Cogan, is remembered as a wholly decent and loving person.
We know how the Jewish 'church' should be regarded - you are its Voltaire -but individual Jews can be good, bad or indifferent, just like everyone else.
Shamir replied: For sure, Ian, "But it no way should individual Jews who don't share or uphold that ideology be blamed. There is another side." This is as true as that individual Englishmen should not be blamed for Harris the Bomber, for mass murders in India, for shelling Kagoshima, for invading North America... There is another side, England of Shakespeare and Chesterton, of these lovely churches you send me so many pictures, of afternoon tea, of willowy maidens etc. This is the world, this is mankind, and bad deeds of our ancestors are there to keep us modest, while their good deeds are there to aspire to.
From John Powell, Florida
Israel,
I just now read your gorgeously lengthy review of Toaff's book.
Your review is Brilliant!! Awesome!!! A Masterpiece!!!!
Especially powerful and insightful was your notice of the fact that people such as Dershowitz are pro-torture (and confident in torture's results) when the torture is committed against Muslims; but those same Dershowitz types are anti-torture (and disparaging of torture's results) when the topic is torture committed against Jews.
Genius!!!!! Your mind is a magnificent universe!
You go to inner places, and see inner elements, which are not visited nor seen by anyone else except you!
Brilliant!!!!! Long Live Israel Adam Shamir!!!!!!
John Powell
Florida, USA
From Tarik Hussein, Denmark
I really LOVED your piece on St. Simon, siding with murdered children suddenly comes out original, which is thought-provoking and highly entertaining. Someone else should look at the humouristic take on it. I mean, here we have it from scientific quarters, confirmed by the extreme touchiness and frantic denials of all the Great and Good Jews, that Jews really like to devour the blood of Christian children on Passover, Christians should think about that before they hire a Jewish nanny. I can sure fancy Abe Foxman preferring to fill his expensive wineglass with fresh Christian baby blood, or having his morning bread with butter made of Christian child fat, eating Christian foetus brains as delicacies...
Only a bit more seriously, the fact that some Jews feel genuinely disturbed on behalf of all Jews because of something like that is frankly a sick but also very funny joke!
Tarik
From Prof Manifacier
I read your review of Dr Toaff book with great interest. Until today, these ritual murder stories were but an example of antisemitic propaganda, just to say that I am not familiar at all with stories concerning these murders and I haven’t heard before of Dr Ariel Toaff.
I had nonetheless a quick look at some of the references, in particular the “catholic “ and the “jewish version” of these events. The jewish version start with a prediction of the “semidemented” (is there a proof of that?) Franciscan friar Bernardini of Feltre: .....”predicting “that at the next jewish Passover a ritual murder would occur”. Again, is there a proof, and which one, (no gossip) of this prediction? And so on... this version seems to me of dubious value. The “catholic version” can be criticised too, but not in he same manner.
Some thoughts came to my mind:
1- If the confessions of the “killers” were unacceptable, because obtained under “physical torture”, why would the retractation of Dr Toaff, rabbi son of a rabbi, be accepted when obtained under “mental torture”?
2- There is something to be written concerning this increase of “highly praised public retractations”. I have in mind the recent and speedy one of President J. Chirac concerning iranian atomic weapons which were not so dangerous after all. ( this from an interview he gave to journalists of the NYT and Nouvel Observateur).
3- More generally, how can we discuss freely ancient historical events when our real time history is distorted on a day to day basis by the very people who are supposed to inform us? To give an example, how will the future generations interpret or learn about these ignominies: irakis, palestinians etc. suffering, if the neocon mentality prevail in the News?
4. However, the Yale man does not care about the killed child, and does not try to explain how come the body was found there, and who and what for mutilated it. He says callously: “Passover was indeed bloody, but it was the blood of the Jews that bore witness to a violent fantasy born out of intolerance. “ What about blood of murdered children, Po-chia Hsia? They were not Jews, they are not likely to be your employers, but they were human! How do you dare to deny their blood?
“In a series of interrogations that involved liberal use of judicial torture, the magistrates obtained the confessions of the Jewish men. “Po-chia Hsia builds his case on the word Torture. If the accused were tortured, their confessions are invalid, he claims. Tho’ accused “believed firmly that it is right that Jews kill Christian children and drink their blood. He want[ed] to have Christian blood at Easter”. It is all due to Torture, says the Yale scholar.
Po-chia Hsia misses the point, for the Italian state and church authorities of 15th c acted humanely by applying torture to Jews, for this was application of Jewish law to Jews, as the Jewish law approves of torture. So we were told not only by Alain Dershowitz, but by a Jewish expert on ethics, Rabbi Dr. Asher Meir, Business Ethics Center of Jerusalem, in an article with alluring title The Jewish Ethicist - The Ethics of Torture . He was asked: “What does Judaism say about torturing suspects in order to obtain life-saving information?” and he replies:
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