Thread: Menachem Begin (Prime minister of Israel) was a TERORIST

Was he a fredom fighter fighting for the right of Israel to exist or a terorist killing inocent civilians. I might be wrong on this but I think it was probably the first case of Western Civilians (28 from England) being killed in relation to the Israel / Palestine dispute. Below are details taken from the internet on the bombing of the King David Hotel in 1946. Is it a terorist act or not.

The King David Hotel bombing (July 22, 1946) was a bombing attack against the British government of Palestine by members of Irgun — a militant Zionist organization, classified as a terrorist organization both by the British authorities and several Jewish organizations, such as the Jewish Agency, Haganah and Histadrut.

The Irgun, dressed as Arabs, exploded a bomb at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which had been the base for the British Secretariat, the military command and a branch of the Criminal Investigation Division (police). 91 people were killed, most of them civilians: 28 British, 41 Arab, 17 Jewish, and 5 other. Around 45 people were injured.

The attack was initially ordered by Menachem Begin, the head of the Irgun, who would later become Israeli Prime Minister. The attack was commanded by Yosef Avni and Yisrael Levi.

The attack on the hotel was the deadliest attack against the British in the history of the Mandate. Some claim this act should be considered in light of the escalating violence in the region and the conflict between the three main forces in the region: British, Jewish and Arab. In particular, the attack was made in retaliation for the British mass arrests (Operation Agatha) of June 29 1946, when British troops raided the Jewish Agency and confiscated large quantities of documents, such as information about Jewish Agency operations, including intelligence activities in Arab countries. At about the same time, more than 2,500 Jews from all over Palestine were placed under arrest. A large number of seized documents were taken to the hotel. However, the bomb attack had already been planned.

In my view I think it was a disgusting act of terror against inocent civillians with no justification. Because of this it makes Menachem Begin a terorist who had no right to hold political office, especially not prime minister. This was just after the Second World War when countless thousands of Britich civilians and soldiers had lost their lives fighting for freedom of the opressed and this was how they were repaid. I know Bin Laden is ten time worse and commited much worse acts but priciply it is still the same - they are both terorists. Would the british government have been right to capture him and sentence him to a life sentence or execution? This might seem far fetched, but this was an attack at the British government and civilians and therefore an act of war. Why was this not acted upon by the British government. From 1948 to 1977, Menachem Begin was the leader of Israel's opposition. In 1977, Begin was elected Prime Minister.

Yep he was a terrorist and should have been treated as such.

Originally Posted by Brian Thomas

Was he a fredom fighter fighting for the right of Israel to exist or a terorist killing inocent civilians. I might be wrong on this but I think it was probably the first case of Western Civilians (28 from England) being killed in relation to the Israel / Palestine dispute. Below are details taken from the internet on the bombing of the King David Hotel in 1946. Is it a terorist act or not.

The King David Hotel bombing (July 22, 1946) was a bombing attack against the British government of Palestine by members of Irgun — a militant Zionist organization, classified as a terrorist organization both by the British authorities and several Jewish organizations, such as the Jewish Agency, Haganah and Histadrut.

The Irgun, dressed as Arabs, exploded a bomb at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which had been the base for the British Secretariat, the military command and a branch of the Criminal Investigation Division (police). 91 people were killed, most of them civilians: 28 British, 41 Arab, 17 Jewish, and 5 other. Around 45 people were injured.

The attack was initially ordered by Menachem Begin, the head of the Irgun, who would later become Israeli Prime Minister. The attack was commanded by Yosef Avni and Yisrael Levi.

The attack on the hotel was the deadliest attack against the British in the history of the Mandate. Some claim this act should be considered in light of the escalating violence in the region and the conflict between the three main forces in the region: British, Jewish and Arab. In particular, the attack was made in retaliation for the British mass arrests (Operation Agatha) of June 29 1946, when British troops raided the Jewish Agency and confiscated large quantities of documents, such as information about Jewish Agency operations, including intelligence activities in Arab countries. At about the same time, more than 2,500 Jews from all over Palestine were placed under arrest. A large number of seized documents were taken to the hotel. However, the bomb attack had already been planned.

In my view I think it was a disgusting act of terror against inocent civillians with no justification. Because of this it makes Menachem Begin a terorist who had no right to hold political office, especially not prime minister. This was just after the Second World War when countless thousands of Britich civilians and soldiers had lost their lives fighting for freedom of the opressed and this was how they were repaid. I know Bin Laden is ten time worse and commited much worse acts but priciply it is still the same - they are both terorists. Would the british government have been right to capture him and sentence him to a life sentence or execution? This might seem far fetched, but this was an attack at the British government and civilians and therefore an act of war. Why was this not acted upon by the British government. From 1948 to 1977, Menachem Begin was the leader of Israel's opposition. In 1977, Begin was elected Prime Minister.

Because of the Allies lack of action concerning the "Final Solution." IMO

Originally Posted by Areyouforreal

Yep he was a terrorist and should have been treated as such.

in PISSrael Jewish terrorists are rewarded and promoted.

The Irgun were noble freedom fighters, not much unlike the IRA in their struggle against the Brits.

Furthermore, the King David Hotel was the central offices of the British Mandatory authorities, incl. their military headquarters. That means it was a valid military target, and therefore not terrorism.

Believe it or not, I would call the Arabs in Palestine freedom fighters as well, and not terrorists...IF they did not tend to primarily target civilians as they always have.

Originally Posted by Bulan

The Irgun were noble freedom fighters, not much unlike the IRA in their struggle against the Brits.

Furthermore, the King David Hotel was the central offices of the British Mandatory authorities, incl. their military headquarters. That means it was a valid military target, and therefore not terrorism.

Believe it or not, I would call the Arabs in Palestine freedom fighters as well, and not terrorists...IF they did not tend to primarily target civilians as they always have.

Freedom fighters from WHOME? I thought the British were occupying Palestine. The Jews were fucked by the nazis and that who the Jews should've fought............................................ .......................
The massacres by your “noble Irgun”, Stern and the rest of those murder ring terrorists are documented and reprisals will be assessed accordingly.

Originally Posted by Bulan

The Irgun were noble freedom fighters, not much unlike the IRA in their struggle against the Brits.

Furthermore, the King David Hotel was the central offices of the British Mandatory authorities, incl. their military headquarters. That means it was a valid military target, and therefore not terrorism.

Believe it or not, I would call the Arabs in Palestine freedom fighters as well, and not terrorists...IF they did not tend to primarily target civilians as they always have.

YOu mean the Jewish freedom fighters who killed over 400 British peacekeepers?

Or the Jewish terror gang who shot Count Bernadotte down in the street after he saved 40,000 Jews from the Holocaust?

Or perhaps you mean Avram Stern who kept trying to make a deal with Hitler to be Germany's ally after the war in exchange for Hitler helping kill British peacekeepers???

The bombing of the King David was carried out by Jews DRESSED up like Arabs..

Sort of an earlier version of the Lavon Affair against Americans in Cairo.

Originally Posted by kudzu

The bombing of the King David was carried out by Jews DRESSED up like Arabs..

Sort of an earlier version of the Lavon Affair against Americans in Cairo.

It is still done by todays Jews who dress like Arabs to murder people.....

The bombing of the King David Hotel also killed a number of Jews who worked there... collateral damage I guess.