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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    The bombing of the King David Hotel also killed a number of Jews who worked there... collateral damage I guess.
    Ah yes like the ships Altalena and Patria...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaloom View Post
    Ah yes like the ships Altalena and Patria...........

    History indicates that the Zionists are pretty ruthless.

    Check this out.

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    Does the Koran talk about Abrahams origins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    YOu mean the Jewish freedom fighters who killed over 400 British peacekeepers?

    Or the Jewish terror gang who shot Count Bernadotte down in the street after he saved 40,000 Jews from the Holocaust?

    Or perhaps you mean Avram Stern who kept trying to make a deal with Hitler to be Germany's ally after the war in exchange for Hitler helping kill British peacekeepers???
    Quote Originally Posted by shaloom View Post
    Freedom fighters from WHOME? I thought the British were occupying Palestine. The Jews were fucked by the nazis and that who the Jews should've fought............................................ .......................
    The massacres by your “noble Irgun, Stern and the rest of those murder ring terrorists are documented and reprisals will be assessed accordingly.
    The Jews in Palestine were also at war against the British at this point. Either you are ignorant of history or you chose to ignore the aspects that do not suit your argument of propaganda.




    Begin and the Irgun were outraged by British insensitivity to the Jewish plight. The Jews had not forgotten about the British restrictions on immigration leading up to and during the war years, which no doubt directly led to the deaths of many Jews who were fleeing the Nazis.

    The British were trying to reneg on their agreements, were arresting Jews, and siding with the Arabs. Is it any great surprise that the Jews fought back?

    It took great courage in my opinion, for this small group of under-equipped ragged Jews to face off against the might of the British Empire. Also, it is worth noting that the Irgun opposed terrorism, opposed attacks on civilians, and generally restricted their attacks to British army officers, and retaliatory attacks of reprisal against Arabs who had attacked them.

    Don't forget the Irgun also fought at times against the Haganah and the Jewish Agency, whose actions were often perfidious in nature.

    I would respect and admire the "Palestinian" terrorists for similar reasons, if they acted more like the Irgun. They don't attack Israeli army officers, and Mossad installations though. They attack women and children, and blow themselves up on buses and such that have no military significance whatsoever. There is therefore a HUGE difference.
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    Of course they wanted the massive illegal immigration of European refugees to stop..

    The were Zionists weren't they, or just victims of the Jewish Agency.

    There is no reason for anyone to expect the Arabs to see their population nearly double with hostile foreigners in little over a decade.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Of course they wanted the massive illegal immigration of European refugees to stop..

    The were Zionists weren't they, or just victims of the Jewish Agency.

    There is no reason for anyone to expect the Arabs to see their population nearly double with hostile foreigners in little over a decade.





    Lets review...

    Jews were being slaughtered in Europe. Britain had promised these same Jews a homeland in their Palestine Mandate. Britain then froze immigration, directly leading to the deaths of thousands of Jews turned away and sent back to Europe.
    Is it a great surprise that given this the Jews turned on the British? You can only kick a dog just so many times before it is finally going to bite you...

    As for the Arabs...it wasn't up to them. They did not own the land and they were not a sovereign entity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulan View Post
    The Irgun were noble freedom fighters, not much unlike the IRA in their struggle against the Brits.

    Furthermore, the King David Hotel was the central offices of the British Mandatory authorities, incl. their military headquarters. That means it was a valid military target, and therefore not terrorism.

    Believe it or not, I would call the Arabs in Palestine freedom fighters as well, and not terrorists...IF they did not tend to primarily target civilians as they always have.
    As you know, Irgun and the Stern Gang deliberately murdered the soldiers who'd fought Hitler - as they had not, just taking his racism up, so we know which side they - and you - were and are on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kynaston View Post
    As you know, Irgun and the Stern Gang deliberately murdered the soldiers who'd fought Hitler - as they had not, just taking his racism up, so we know which side they - and you - were and are on.
    False. The Irgun (I have not once mentioned the Stern Gang and that is a separate matter entirely) "deliberately murdered" the soldiers who had deliberately murdered Jews. In most instances their actions were entirely retaliatory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaloom View Post
    It is still done by todays Jews who dress like Arabs to murder people.....
    Maybe they murder the fictional group who called themselves Palestinians because this fictional group are baby killers who invaded the Jewish homeland. The sandniggers must stop occupying the land of Jews . When these beasts go back to Egypt where they originate from, they can live in their homeland. But Egypt doesn't want the baby murderers.

    I wish Begin would have killed a thousand times as many of the Little British because they were occupying the Jewish homeland.

    They needed to leave the land of the Jews and return to their own shithole known as little Britain.

    Bravo Begin, Why didn't you kill a hundreds more of the beastly British.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulan View Post
    The Jews in Palestine were also at war against the British at this point. Either you are ignorant of history or you chose to ignore the aspects that do not suit your argument of propaganda.




    Begin and the Irgun were outraged by British insensitivity to the Jewish plight. The Jews had not forgotten about the British restrictions on immigration leading up to and during the war years, which no doubt directly led to the deaths of many Jews who were fleeing the Nazis.

    The British were trying to reneg on their agreements, were arresting Jews, and siding with the Arabs. Is it any great surprise that the Jews fought back?

    It took great courage in my opinion, for this small group of under-equipped ragged Jews to face off against the might of the British Empire. Also, it is worth noting that the Irgun opposed terrorism, opposed attacks on civilians, and generally restricted their attacks to British army officers, and retaliatory attacks of reprisal against Arabs who had attacked them.

    Don't forget the Irgun also fought at times against the Haganah and the Jewish Agency, whose actions were often perfidious in nature.

    I would respect and admire the "Palestinian" terrorists for similar reasons, if they acted more like the Irgun. They don't attack Israeli army officers, and Mossad installations though. They attack women and children, and blow themselves up on buses and such that have no military significance whatsoever. There is therefore a HUGE difference.
    Very good post. The British are the biggest mass murderers in the history of the world. They raped and pilaged one fourth of the world and kept it under their control. The British were worse than the Nazis. They murdered 3 million Irish in the 1830 and 1840s. They invaded Ireland , took any valuable land for themselves and made the Irish live on only potatoes . When the potatoe crop developed a fungus, the British continue to export enormous amounts of food raised on Irish land and allowed the Irish to starve to death by the millions.

    The Palestinians only arrived in the Jewish homeland to provide services to Jews who returned to their homeland in large numbers beginning in the mid 1800s. The ragheads have no claim to the land of Israel which includes the phony country called Jordan. Damascus was 50% until the Mohammed conquered Syria. The sandniggers owe Jews reparations.

    Israel should take over the oil fields from the ragheads the Saudis.
    The Jews were living in the area now called the Arabian Peninsula in large numbers before there were Muslims. The murder Mohammad drove them out after slaughtering most of them. That oil belongs to the Jews.Jews lived in Mecca and Medina before their were Muslims. Where is the UN? They must make the Arabs return some of the land in Arabia which was stolen from the Jews by Muhammad and his homicidal followers.

    All you retards who are so stupid you criticize Israeli Jews for living in their own homeland, should demand all the lands which the Moslems conquered by force should be given back to the original residents many of which were Jews.
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