Iranian Bigotry: The Slaughter of 4,000 Gays

gixaholic · #1 (**permalink**) 10-02-2007, 07:46 AM

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At Columbia University on Monday, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declared: “We don’t have homosexuals like in your country. We don’t have that in our country. We don’t have this phenomenon; I don’t know who’s told you we have it.”

If there were any truth to this – and there is none – it would be because because the Islamic regime in Iran had killed them, since homosexuality can be a capital crime in that country. One notorious case occurred on July 19, 2005, when two teenage boys, Mahmoud Asgari, 14, and Ayaz Marhoni, 16, were hanged in a particularly brutal manner in Iran for the crime of homosexual activity. Although Iranian officials insisted that the death sentence was for the rape of a third boy, the National Council of Resistance of Iran, has said otherwise. But Asgari and Marhoni were not alone. According to the Iranian gay and lesbian rights group Homan, the Iranian government has put to death an estimated 4,000 homosexuals since 1980. According to Scott Long, director of the Human Rights Watch Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Rights Program, Iranians who are suspected of being gay commonly face torture. Hossein Alizadeh of the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission said Iran gays live with “constant fear of execution and persecution and also social stigma associated with homosexuality.”

This is true not only in Iran, but in all too many areas of the Islamic world. The Qur’an characterizes those who “practice your lusts on men in preference to women” as “transgressing beyond bounds” (7:81). A hadith pronounces “the curse of Allah” upon those who engage in homosexual activity. A contemporary Muslim writer, Shaykh Abdul-Azeez Al-Fawzaan, called homosexuality “one of the most sinful acts known to humankind” and said that it was “evidence of perverted instincts, total collapse of shame and honor, and extreme filthiness of character and soul.”

Legal views on punishment vary. Among the Sunni schools of Islamic jurisprudence (madhahib), the Hanafi school mandates a severe beating for the first offense, and the death penalty for a repeat offender. The Shafi’i school calls for 100 lashes for an unmarried homosexual, death by stoning for a married one. The Hanbali school requires stoning across the board. Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, directed his followers to “kill the one who sodomizes and the one who lets it be done to him” (‘Umdat al-Salik, p17.3).

In many areas these injunctions are still followed. The Islamic Penal Law Against Homosexuals in Iran calls for the death penalty for sodomy and one hundred lashes for lesbianism for the first three offenses, with death for the fourth offense. Homosexuality is a capital offense not only in Iran, but also in Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Yemen and Mauritania. In Malaysia, it can draw a twenty-year prison sentence, and is illegal also in Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bosnia, Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Malaysia, Morocco, Oman, Pakistan, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, the United Arab Emirates, and Uzbekistan, among others.

Of course, Afghanistan under the Taliban regime drew international attention for killing gays by toppling walls onto them. Pakistani law mandates two years in prison for homosexual activity, but the traditional Islamic penalties of lashing and stoning are still widely popular. When authorities in the United Arab Emirates arrested twenty-six men whom they accused of participating in a mass gay wedding – with twelve dressed as grooms and twelve as brides, plus a disc jockey and a man who was to perform the wedding ceremony – in November 2005, they announced plans to subject the men not only to lashings and jail time, but also to hormone treatments.

In light of all this, the silence of campus gay rights groups and the so-called “progressive” Left generally about the global efforts by Islamic jihadists to impose Islamic Sharia law is appallingly short-sighted. While they attack Christians, who are not calling for gays to be imprisoned or killed under any circumstances, they say nothing about a genuine threat to their survival. While they attack Israel, a gay-friendly country, they are silent about the murder of gays in Islamic Iran.

The late columnist Cathy Seipp recounted a telling incident in March 2006, when a friend of hers went into San Francisco’s City Lights bookstore and asked for a copy of the late and much-missed Oriana Fallaci’s The Force of Reason. “We don’t carry books by fascists,” sniffed the clerk, prompting Seipp to muse: “Strangest of all is the scenario of such a person disliking an author for defending Western civilization against radical Islam -- when one of the first things those poor, persecuted Islamists would do, if they ever (Allah forbid) came to power in the U.S., is crush suspected homosexuals like him beneath walls.”

itsplayed · #2 (**permalink**) 10-02-2007, 08:01 AM

Yes, but Islam is a religion of peace....haven't you heard?

noneof yourbusiness · #3 (**permalink**) 10-02-2007, 12:00 PM

Both you idiots are raging homophobes..LMFAO....moronic to the tenth

RASTAMAN · #4 (**permalink**) 10-04-2007, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gixaholic

FrontPage Magazine

At Columbia University on Monday, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declared: “We don’t have homosexuals like in your country. We don’t have that in our country. We don’t have this phenomenon; I don’t know who’s told you we have it.”

If there were any truth to this – and there is none – it would be because because the Islamic regime in Iran had killed them, since homosexuality can be a capital crime in that country. One notorious case occurred on July 19, 2005, when two teenage boys, Mahmoud Asgari, 14, and Ayaz Marhoni, 16, were hanged in a particularly brutal manner in Iran for the crime of homosexual activity. Although Iranian officials insisted that the death sentence was for the rape of a third boy, the National Council of Resistance of Iran, has said otherwise. But Asgari and Marhoni were not alone. According to the Iranian gay and lesbian rights group Homan, the Iranian government has put to death an estimated 4,000 homosexuals since 1980. According to Scott Long, director of the Human Rights Watch Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Rights Program, Iranians who are suspected of being gay commonly face torture. Hossein Alizadeh of the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission said Iran gays live with “constant fear of execution and persecution and also social stigma associated with homosexuality.”

This is true not only in Iran, but in all too many areas of the Islamic world. The Qur’an characterizes those who “practice your lusts on men in preference to women” as “transgressing beyond bounds” (7:81). A hadith pronounces “the curse of Allah” upon those who engage in homosexual activity. A contemporary Muslim writer, Shaykh Abdul-Azeez Al-Fawzaan, called homosexuality “one of the most sinful acts known to humankind” and said that it was “evidence of perverted instincts, total collapse of shame and honor, and extreme filthiness of character and soul.”

Legal views on punishment vary. Among the Sunni schools of Islamic jurisprudence (madhahib), the Hanafi school mandates a severe beating for the first offense, and the death penalty for a repeat offender. The Shafi’i school calls for 100 lashes for an unmarried homosexual, death by stoning for a married one. The Hanbali school requires stoning across the board. Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, directed his followers to “kill the one who sodomizes and the one who lets it be done to him” (‘Umdat al-Salik, p17.3).

In many areas these injunctions are still followed. The Islamic Penal Law Against Homosexuals in Iran calls for the death penalty for sodomy and one hundred lashes for lesbianism for the first three offenses, with death for the fourth offense. Homosexuality is a capital offense not only in Iran, but also in Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Yemen and Mauritania. In Malaysia, it can draw a twenty-year prison sentence, and is illegal also in Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bosnia, Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Malaysia, Morocco, Oman, Pakistan, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, the United Arab Emirates, and Uzbekistan, among others.

Of course, Afghanistan under the Taliban regime drew international attention for killing gays by toppling walls onto them. Pakistani law mandates two years in prison for homosexual activity, but the traditional Islamic penalties of lashing and stoning are still widely popular. When authorities in the United Arab Emirates arrested twenty-six men whom they accused of participating in a mass gay wedding – with twelve dressed as grooms and twelve as brides, plus a disc jockey and a man who was to perform the wedding ceremony – in November 2005, they announced plans to subject the men not only to lashings and jail time, but also to hormone treatments.

In light of all this, the silence of campus gay rights groups and the so-called “progressive” Left generally about the global efforts by Islamic jihadists to impose Islamic Sharia law is appallingly short-sighted. While they attack Christians, who are not calling for gays to be imprisoned or killed under any circumstances, they say nothing about a genuine threat to their survival. While they attack Israel, a gay-friendly country, they are silent about the murder of gays in Islamic Iran.

The late columnist Cathy Seipp recounted a telling incident in March 2006, when a friend of hers went into San Francisco’s City Lights bookstore and asked for a copy of the late and much-missed Oriana Fallaci’s The Force of Reason. “We don’t carry books by fascists,” sniffed the clerk, prompting Seipp to muse: “Strangest of all is the scenario of such a person disliking an author for defending Western civilization against radical Islam -- when one of the first things those poor, persecuted Islamists would do, if they ever (Allah forbid) came to power in the U.S., is crush suspected homosexuals like him beneath walls.”

Gixx, we always knew you were Gay! Thanks for coming out of the closet.

By the way.....stay out of IRAN okay!!

mlurp · #5 (**permalink**) 10-05-2007, 12:19 AM

That is the trouble with the Koran, it teaches no tolerances. Islam will devour the world if people don't wake up. It says it does but Satan is the Father of all lies.
They don't allow one to ask questions as most other faiths allow. So when a hate Imam shows up with his throng of (dangerous) people guess what. Another 20 to 100 hate mongers are created.
That is why Bin laden and others say they do it in the name of Islam.
The Koran is Satan's book. He copies everything God, did or will do.
And these fools who believe that Islam is peaceful and even thought they practice it that way will some day have no choice but to join the Holy Wars..
So by not standing up an saying that this isn't Islam and speaking out against these terrorist they seal their own fate.

Why is it if they kill themselves and take innocence people with them they get to have the pleasure they can't have on this earth. And just how many virgins are there as these diaper heads are dieing far above our troops KIA rate.
wake up there is no reasoning with these people, period.

rob · #6 (**permalink**) 10-07-2007, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mlurp

That is the trouble with the Koran, it teaches no tolerances. Islam will devour the world if people don't wake up. It says it does but Satan is the Father of all lies.
They don't allow one to ask questions as most other faiths allow. So when a hate Imam shows up with his throng of (dangerous) people guess what. Another 20 to 100 hate mongers are created.
That is why Bin laden and others say they do it in the name of Islam.
The Koran is Satan's book. He copies everything God, did or will do.
And these fools who believe that Islam is peaceful and even thought they practice it that way will some day have no choice but to join the Holy Wars..
So by not standing up an saying that this isn't Islam and speaking out against these terrorist they seal their own fate.

Why is it if they kill themselves and take innocence people with them they get to have the pleasure they can't have on this earth. And just how many virgins are there as these diaper heads are dieing far above our troops KIA rate.
wake up there is no reasoning with these people, period.

Well, I have never thought that the devil wrote the Koran, but maybe he did. Islam is a relegion that is setting the stage to be the one relegion of the world.

satv365 · #7 (**permalink**) 10-07-2007, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rob

Well, I have never thought that the devil wrote the Koran, but maybe he did. Islam is a relegion that is setting the stage to be the one relegion of the world.

I wouldnt go that far with it. I say let the primitive zealots have there desert. We have enough shit to worry about at home to be caring about the internal squabbles of people who cling to medievil superstitions and customs.

America first.

Everyone else deal with there own shit, or buy american made guns for a revolution in Iran.

mlurp · #8 (**permalink**) 10-07-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by satv365

I wouldnt go that far with it. I say let the primitive zealots have there desert. We have enough shit to worry about at home to be caring about the internal squabbles of people who cling to medievil superstitions and customs.

America first.

Everyone else deal with there own shit, or buy american made guns for a revolution in Iran.

These desert dwellers are not staying in the sand. Look around the world they are everwhere. And more and more the preachers of hate amoung them follow the people preaching hate and death. And they bring their strong arm guards to back them up.
Look at the UK. Even the young muslims are for the Serif Law to be put in place.
This is going to go World wide and so won't the battles and blood shed. By then the spinless World leaders that put America down will be begging for our troops to help them.
Opinions of ours don't matter on this subject. It will happen!

RASTAMAN · #9 (**permalink**) 10-07-2007, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlurp

That is the trouble with the Koran, it teaches no tolerances. Islam will devour the world if people don't wake up. It says it does but Satan is the Father of all lies.
They don't allow one to ask questions as most other faiths allow. So when a hate Imam shows up with his throng of (dangerous) people guess what. Another 20 to 100 hate mongers are created.
That is why Bin laden and others say they do it in the name of Islam.
The Koran is Satan's book. He copies everything God, did or will do.
And these fools who believe that Islam is peaceful and even thought they practice it that way will some day have no choice but to join the Holy Wars..
So by not standing up an saying that this isn't Islam and speaking out against these terrorist they seal their own fate.

Why is it if they kill themselves and take innocence people with them they get to have the pleasure they can't have on this earth. And just how many virgins are there as these diaper heads are dieing far above our troops KIA rate.
wake up there is no reasoning with these people, period.

Mulp you are looking at this from only a one sided point of view. First, there are over billion Muslims around world and although our troops are killing more than they are killing us! this does not mean we are winning. We will definitely need to change the Bush strategy of fighting terrorism if we want to avoid from draining our national treasury!

Second, always remember, our country has brought terrorism either directly or indirectly to the Middle East thru imperialism, politically, exploitively and economically (since at least the 1950's) long before Arabs brought terrorism to America.

I do agree with you that Terrorist use the Koran-Islam as an excuse and as a tool to justify their ideaology......however, you cannot ignore nor deny the fact Christians themselves rationalize war, chaos and killing as well!

itsplayed · #10 (**permalink**) 10-07-2007, 07:13 PM

Sorry, but Islamic terror has been around well before the 1950's.....actually, since it's inception.