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09-26-2007, 12:55 PM
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Lies About Homosexuality in Iran, and His Hypocracy Concerning
Sovereignty.
Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told the Columbia University audience that homosexuality didn't exist in Iran, and was in fact a "phenomenon". His statement was met by laughter.
Hey, read the following article by Human Rights News, that reveals not only that homosexuals exist in Iran-just like everywhere else in the world, but they are being jailed, tortured, and executed just for being homosexual.
Iran: Two More Executions for Homosexual Conduct (Human Rights Watch, 22-11-2005)
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad then spoke at the United Nations on September 25, 2007. He spoke with eloquent sarcasm marked with blatant hypocracy. Here is some of what Ahmadinejad said at the United Nations:
" ...Mr. Ahmadinejad devoted much of his speech to criticism of “certain powers,” which he said were responsible for many of the world’s problems. These powers routinely breached human rights despite claiming to be exclusive advocates of those rights; aggressively attacked indigenous cultures and national values; promoted lewdness and violence; perpetuated gross economic imbalances between countries; violated rules of international law and disrespected their global commitments; and escalated the arms race.
Mr. Ahmadinejad warned these countries “to learn from history and their actions,” saying they had lost the competence to lead the planet, and that international relations would soon change.
“The era of darkness will end, prisoners will return home, the occupied lands will be freed, Palestine and Iraq will be liberated from the dominion of the occupiers, and the people of America and Europe will be free of the pressure exerted by the Zionists.
“The tender-hearted and humanity-loving governments will replace the aggressive and domineering ones. Human dignity will be regained. The pleasing aroma of justice will permeate the world, and people will live together in a brotherly and affectionate manner.” (bull  )
He announced that Iran would help establish the “Coalition for Peace,” which he described as “a front of fraternity, amity and sustainable peace based on monotheism and justice...”
You can get the full article at:
Iranian President tells General Assembly that nuclear issue is now closed
Now, if Ahmadinejad's politically tired assed speech at the United Nations wasn't hypocracy, then there's no such thing as hypocracy. He lied to Columbia University concerning if homosexuals existed in Iran, then he strolls over to the United Nations under thick security so that no one could shoot his pathetic, lying ass, and tries to gain sympathy from the U.N. audience with a hypocritical speech about love and brotherhood. Yet, homosexuals, and anyone considered to be immoral inside of Iran, are regularly jailed, tortured, put to death, or run out of the country. Yet, Ahmadinejad "arrogantly" stood before the United Nations like a fucking wolf in sheep's clothing, and stated that, "the tender-hearted and humanity-loving governments will replace the aggressive and domineering ones..." He even was foolish enough to announce that Iran would help establish the "coalition for peace", which Ahmadinejad called "a front of fraternity, amity and sustainable peace based on monotheism and justice." What complete hypocritical bullshit!
Ahmadinejad arrogantly stood before the United Nations assembly ranting on and on about the abuses of power by the Western nations, while cautiously reframing from talking about his own country's abuse of internal power, and being a state sponsor of terrorism inside of Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, and South America. Then Ahmadinejad started sniveling about how the U.N. was impotent in its abilities to effectively solve the world's problems, and blah, blah, blah. Then news media cameras showed nation audience members. Some people were holding their own little private conversations, others were picking their noses, and one black man looked like his ass was nearly comatose because his mouth was hung open, and he was cutting some heavy zzzz. Several other people were asleep, too. Nobody seemed to really give a good damn what Ahmadinejad was saying, and this is probably why his ass wasn't arrested for human rights violations, or being a state sponsor of terrorism throughout the Middle East.
So, what do you think, should Ahmadinejad be taken seriously about wanting to help bring peace to the world? Is there really "sovereignty" inside of Iran, and do you thing Ahmadinejad is a hypocrit for trying to point a finger at the Western powers concerning violating other nation's sovereignty, when the Iranian people's sovereignty is violated by their own government if they so much as breath wrong? Or, should he be arrested and charged with human rights violations for executing people for being homosexual, or immoral? Should Columbia University have invited Ahmadinejad to speak at their school? And, do you think Mamoud Ahmadinejad is strang,crazy, or politically a lot like president Bush? Do you think his political motives are sincere? 
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09-29-2007, 09:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mindcrew
Sovereignty.
Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told the Columbia University audience that homosexuality didn't exist in Iran, and was in fact a "phenomenon". His statement was met by laughter.
Hey, read the following article by Human Rights News, that reveals not only that homosexuals exist in Iran-just like everywhere else in the world, but they are being jailed, tortured, and executed just for being homosexual.
Iran: Two More Executions for Homosexual Conduct (Human Rights Watch, 22-11-2005)
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad then spoke at the United Nations on September 25, 2007. He spoke with eloquent sarcasm marked with blatant hypocracy. Here is some of what Ahmadinejad said at the United Nations:
" ...Mr. Ahmadinejad devoted much of his speech to criticism of “certain powers,” which he said were responsible for many of the world’s problems. These powers routinely breached human rights despite claiming to be exclusive advocates of those rights; aggressively attacked indigenous cultures and national values; promoted lewdness and violence; perpetuated gross economic imbalances between countries; violated rules of international law and disrespected their global commitments; and escalated the arms race.
Mr. Ahmadinejad warned these countries “to learn from history and their actions,” saying they had lost the competence to lead the planet, and that international relations would soon change.
“The era of darkness will end, prisoners will return home, the occupied lands will be freed, Palestine and Iraq will be liberated from the dominion of the occupiers, and the people of America and Europe will be free of the pressure exerted by the Zionists.
“The tender-hearted and humanity-loving governments will replace the aggressive and domineering ones. Human dignity will be regained. The pleasing aroma of justice will permeate the world, and people will live together in a brotherly and affectionate manner.” (bull  )
He announced that Iran would help establish the “Coalition for Peace,” which he described as “a front of fraternity, amity and sustainable peace based on monotheism and justice...”
You can get the full article at:
Iranian President tells General Assembly that nuclear issue is now closed
Now, if Ahmadinejad's politically tired assed speech at the United Nations wasn't hypocracy, then there's no such thing as hypocracy. He lied to Columbia University concerning if homosexuals existed in Iran, then he strolls over to the United Nations under thick security so that no one could shoot his pathetic, lying ass, and tries to gain sympathy from the U.N. audience with a hypocritical speech about love and brotherhood. Yet, homosexuals, and anyone considered to be immoral inside of Iran, are regularly jailed, tortured, put to death, or run out of the country. Yet, Ahmadinejad "arrogantly" stood before the United Nations like a fucking wolf in sheep's clothing, and stated that, "the tender-hearted and humanity-loving governments will replace the aggressive and domineering ones..." He even was foolish enough to announce that Iran would help establish the "coalition for peace", which Ahmadinejad called "a front of fraternity, amity and sustainable peace based on monotheism and justice." What complete hypocritical bullshit!
Ahmadinejad arrogantly stood before the United Nations assembly ranting on and on about the abuses of power by the Western nations, while cautiously reframing from talking about his own country's abuse of internal power, and being a state sponsor of terrorism inside of Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, and South America. Then Ahmadinejad started sniveling about how the U.N. was impotent in its abilities to effectively solve the world's problems, and blah, blah, blah. Then news media cameras showed nation audience members. Some people were holding their own little private conversations, others were picking their noses, and one black man looked like his ass was nearly comatose because his mouth was hung open, and he was cutting some heavy zzzz. Several other people were asleep, too. Nobody seemed to really give a good damn what Ahmadinejad was saying, and this is probably why his ass wasn't arrested for human rights violations, or being a state sponsor of terrorism throughout the Middle East.
So, what do you think, should Ahmadinejad be taken seriously about wanting to help bring peace to the world? Is there really "sovereignty" inside of Iran, and do you thing Ahmadinejad is a hypocrit for trying to point a finger at the Western powers concerning violating other nation's sovereignty, when the Iranian people's sovereignty is violated by their own government if they so much as breath wrong? Or, should he be arrested and charged with human rights violations for executing people for being homosexual, or immoral? Should Columbia University have invited Ahmadinejad to speak at their school? And, do you think Mamoud Ahmadinejad is strang,crazy, or politically a lot like president Bush? Do you think his political motives are sincere? 
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While I will agree that Bush has done some stupid crap, in what way could we possibly put him and Ahmmabadman in the same breath (as far as speaking in fairytales goes)??
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09-29-2007, 09:29 PM
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Because Bush effects us, and Ameddurkadurkastan effects Iranians.
My emphasis would go towards our own run away Federal Government, and his Bushite theifs of Constitutional authority.
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09-30-2007, 01:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mindcrew
Sovereignty.
Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told the Columbia University audience that homosexuality didn't exist in Iran, and was in fact a "phenomenon". His statement was met by laughter. 
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According to the US Christian fundamentalists, homosexuality doesn't exist. It is just that people, generally the Baptist clergy, sin by violating god's law.
And the US Christian fundamentalists find it important to beat them up and so on.
So, you insulting Bush's America?
In fact, the only Republican that will admit to beleiving that homosexual exist is Rudy, for the rest, it just a bunch of sinners, not homosexuals indulging in the gay lifestyle.
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09-30-2007, 09:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by satv365
Because Bush effects us, and Ameddurkadurkastan effects Iranians.
My emphasis would go towards our own run away Federal Government, and his Bushite theifs of Constitutional authority.
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You may be correct, but one of our "esteemed" schools of higher learning saw fit to give this dude from Iran a platform, so, in essence, he is fair game to judge.
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"A committee is a group of people who individually can do nothing but together can decide that nothing can be done."
Fred Allen
"A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."
George Bernard Shaw
"Politics is the art of choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable."
John Galbraith
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