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09-21-2007, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by crowonapost
I'm getting real sick of the guy looks at you funny in the bar so you preemptively attempt to beat the shit out of him argument. It's really freakin' moronic.
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Yes, but it's kind of a knee jerk reaction with some...
In an odd way it can feel good to kick the shit out of someone who deserves it, but utimately it accomplishes and/or proves nothing. And there is always the chance it will backfire and make things worse....
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09-21-2007, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45
Are they going to attack us tomorrow? I don't know but since they already have attacked us by holding our embassy hostage during the heady days of Jimma Cawda (andthe same person was involved as is now president) I would not invite them to speak at my college!
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That is what I would call geopolitical ignorance. The Iranian hostage crisis was precipitated by US manipulation of their internal affairs putting in a Shaw who was pretty police state Orwellian.
In desperation that scenario created an opposite extreme, the current Iranian Gov.
The covert policies of the United States under the CIA during the cold war created that dynamic.
Using that as a background justification is woefully politically ignorant.
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09-21-2007, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by crowonapost
That is what I would call geopolitical ignorance. The Iranian hostage crisis was precipitated by US manipulation of their internal affairs putting in a Shaw who was pretty police state Orwellian.
In desperation that scenario created an opposite extreme, the current Iranian Gov.
The covert policies of the United States under the CIA during the cold war created that dynamic.
Using that as a background justification is woefully politically ignorant.
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Sighs deeply
Selling out one of the few allies we had in the Middle East by that bozo Jimma Cawda, who never met a dictator he didn't like, was the reason for this. The Iranians did not want the regime currently in power.
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09-21-2007, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45
Sighs deeply
Selling out one of the few allies we had in the Middle East by that bozo Jimma Cawda, who never met a dictator he didn't like, was the reason for this. The Iranians did not want the regime currently in power.
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How is that? Crow had it right.....
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09-21-2007, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45
Sighs deeply
Selling out one of the few allies we had in the Middle East by that bozo Jimma Cawda, who never met a dictator he didn't like, was the reason for this. The Iranians did not want the regime currently in power.
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Well, either enough wanted it or didn't want the Shah....one of the two. I admit, I don't know a great deal about what Carter could've or could not have done to have avoided the Iranian Revolution of 1979. At any rate, any attempt could have been decribed as more meddling on our part. We did that often in those days...including Iran since the 50s. I think Crow's point that this meddling is at least partially responsible for the Iranian Hostage Crisis is a valid point.
At any rate, I do not think we need to lose a lot of sleep over Iran. That doesn't mean we should leave the Gulf, etc. and not confront them when needed....just remember, calmer heads usually prevail.
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09-21-2007, 01:20 PM
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So, we only worry about our enemies AFTER they have attacked us?
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>>>Dude, everybody is our enemy. We don't have enough bombs.
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09-21-2007, 01:25 PM
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Let's call Iran the "threat du jour".
Actually, I don't like Shias at all. We should have invaded Iran BEFORE we invaded Iraq, but noo-oooo-ooo, Iraq had weapons of mass destruction related programs and was bayoneting infants in hospitals.
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09-21-2007, 02:26 PM
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smitty nice work. You have done the due diligence for everyone. All people need to do is read. and make up there own minds...
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09-21-2007, 03:20 PM
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You guys are scared of Iran? What a bunch of panzies
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09-21-2007, 04:09 PM
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You guys are scared of Iran? What a bunch of panzies
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Not scared, but very leary of their Influence on the Wars in Afganistan and Iraq. Not only are they prolonging the conflicts and adding to the cost, but they will be a long term threat to the Entire region if not taken back a couple hundred years.
If the Israelis can hit Syria so easily, I think Iran would be feasible also. Really, It is way past time to comfront them, and perhaps now that France is growing some Gonads, maybe it will come together.
The Mideast will never know peace until they are contained.
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