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Old 09-13-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default Finnally something good in Iraq.

Something that everyone can agree is good has happened in Iraq: less troops. Lets hope this trend continues so there can be some peace.
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:13 PM
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Ts not really good. Cause a slow drawback will leave more troops stranded. Remember when the arguement was theres not enough troops...well..there ya go now its gona happen again. The withdrawl should be ALL OUT ASAP
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Old 09-14-2007, 06:36 AM
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Ts not really good. Cause a slow drawback will leave more troops stranded. Remember when the arguement was theres not enough troops...well..there ya go now its gona happen again. The withdrawl should be ALL OUT ASAP
While I agree it seems that they are too stubborn to do something like that. I still believe its a step in the right direction however.

I suppose this could be quite meaningless however. Hopefully what will happen is people will realize that Muslims are mad at us because of our presence in the middle east. They dont "hate freedom". While the president has said that there will be utter chaos without the military in Iraq he fails to recognize the utter chaos at the hands of the US.
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:12 AM
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Something that everyone can agree is good has happened in Iraq: less troops. Lets hope this trend continues so there can be some peace.
PULL OUT AT ANY COST? ANOTHER PERSON WHO BELIEVES THE WORLD WOULD BE SAFER WITH AN ISLAMIC EXTREAMIST RAN IRAQ.
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Old 09-14-2007, 04:27 PM
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PULL OUT AT ANY COST? ANOTHER PERSON WHO BELIEVES THE WORLD WOULD BE SAFER WITH AN ISLAMIC EXTREAMIST RAN IRAQ.
First off, stop yelling. Im right here.

Secondly how many people dont get that the easiest way to get someone not pissed at you is to give them nothing to be pissed about. They're mad about us being in the middle east. The less americans are in and around their land, pumping up oil and protecting the wells the happier they'll be.
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Old 09-14-2007, 04:48 PM
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PULL OUT AT ANY COST? ANOTHER PERSON WHO BELIEVES THE WORLD WOULD BE SAFER WITH AN ISLAMIC EXTREAMIST RAN IRAQ.
Stay at any cost Smitty?

That's pretty fucking stupid since all we've really done over there is make a bad situation worse.
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:30 PM
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ISLAMIC EXTREAMIST RAN IRAQ.
Is American Extreamist running America? I do hope that you
are not calling all the people that's connected with Islam a
extreamist? I am sure that most of the Middle East is calling
Bush an American extreamist who is running (or should I say
ruining) America?

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Stay at any cost Smitty? That's pretty
fucking stupid since all we've really done over there is
make a bad situation worse.
I agree Heckler, We have paid the cost by our troopers
losing their lives in a dumb ass useless war that did not
concern our so-called Government. Smitty commented about
Extremist. Don't Bush's action seem like an extremist? and I
don't see no dfferences Bush is doing the samething Smitty is
blaming all Islamics for.
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Old 09-16-2007, 12:41 PM
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PULL OUT AT ANY COST? ANOTHER PERSON WHO BELIEVES THE WORLD WOULD BE SAFER WITH AN ISLAMIC EXTREAMIST RAN IRAQ.
Are you voting for McCain? He's the only one that wasn't with this chorus calling for cut-and-run:

"You can support the troops but not the president."--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"Well, I just think it's a bad idea. What's going to happen is they're going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years."--Joe Scarborough (R-FL)

"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"--Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

"[The] President . . . is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."--Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)"

American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."
--Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush

"I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning . . I didn't think we had done enough in the diplomatic area."--Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

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Old 09-17-2007, 10:56 AM
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Is American Extreamist running America? I do hope that you
are not calling all the people that's connected with Islam a
extreamist? I am sure that most of the Middle East is calling
Bush an American extreamist who is running (or should I say
ruining) America?



I agree Heckler, We have paid the cost by our troopers
losing their lives in a dumb ass useless war that did not
concern our so-called Government. Smitty commented about
Extremist. Don't Bush's action seem like an extremist? and I
don't see no dfferences Bush is doing the samething Smitty is
blaming all Islamics for.
Thanks GD, and I agree with you as well. What is extreme is defined by our personal perspectives, it is subjective.
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Old 09-17-2007, 11:08 AM
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I don't think Muslims "hate freedom". I don't think they care about freedom. At least not the extremist who are stirring the pot right now. I think the extremist think that we are decadent and Godless and the world would be a better place without us. I think they want to control the world in order to install an Islamic Religious government. I think they, given the opportunity, will convert or destory all non Muslims. I don't think we can ever live in harmony with such a group. Does this apply to all Muslims? I don't know but I am not willing to take that chance. Are you?

I think Saddam did support terrorist when it suited his purpose. I think he thought he was strong enough to control them in Iraq and had no fear of allowing them in. I think this war is about insuring a free flow of oil to the West and if anyone thinks this is not important is a total pie in the sky idiot. Our entire economy revolves around oil, our automobiles, our heating oils and our lubricants for our machines.

To pull out of Iraq now is not in our national interest unless you believe we should succumb to Islamic control. If we leave Iraq before we are ready I can assure you it will only be a matter of time before American women will be wearing burkas and we will all be washing our feet three times a day. You want that as a way of life?
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