Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

To pull out of Iraq now is not in our national interest unless you believe we should succumb to Islamic control. If we leave Iraq before we are ready I can assure you it will only be a matter of time before American women will be wearing burkas and we will all be washing our feet three times a day. You want that as a way of life?

Originally Posted by theyellowresistance

First off, stop yelling. Im right here.

Secondly how many people dont get that the easiest way to get someone not pissed at you is to give them nothing to be pissed about. They're mad about us being in the middle east. The less americans are in and around their land, pumping up oil and protecting the wells the happier they'll be.

Originally Posted by Heckler

Stay at any cost Smitty?

That's pretty fucking stupid since all we've really done over there is make a bad situation worse.

Originally Posted by Ghostdog

Is American Extreamist running America? I do hope that you
are not calling all the people that's connected with Islam a
extreamist? I am sure that most of the Middle East is calling
Bush an American extreamist who is running (or should I say
ruining) America?



I agree Heckler, We have paid the cost by our troopers
losing their lives in a dumb ass useless war that did not
concern our so-called Government. Smitty commented about
Extremist. Don't Bush's action seem like an extremist? and I
don't see no dfferences Bush is doing the samething Smitty is
blaming all Islamics for.

Originally Posted by Heckler

Just by leaving Iraq? That's preposterous.

Are you and all the other Americans (here in this country) going to roll over and give up and lay down your weapons if/when the hordes arrive here to conquer us? That is when I will START shooting.

Get real. That's just not going to happen no matter what.

Originally Posted by mulp

Are you voting for McCain? He's the only one that wasn't with this chorus calling for cut-and-run:

"You can support the troops but not the president."--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"Well, I just think it's a bad idea. What's going to happen is they're going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years."--Joe Scarborough (R-FL)

"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"--Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

"[The] President . . . is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."--Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)"

American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."
--Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush

"I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning . . I didn't think we had done enough in the diplomatic area."--Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."-- Governor George W. Bush (R)-TX

Vote for War! Vote Republican!

Originally Posted by Smitty0311

REALLY? FREEDOM FOR MILLIONS IS WORSE? A CONGRESS THAT HAS PASSED MORE LEGESLATION THAN WE HAVE, WORSE? DECLINE ENEMY ATTACKS AND INSERGENCY, WORSE? FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN IRAQ AND WHAT I HEAR NOW, WE ARE WINNING. WHATS YOUR PROBLEM?

Originally Posted by Heckler

Well, if in the next year it becomes a stable country, I will admit I was wrong, okay?

As for making a bad situation worse, yes, we have. The level of services for the population is worse than pre war. Saddam was a murdering pig, but more Iraqi's have died during the war than in the years immediately prior to invasion.

The decline in enemy attacks if fairly recent, it is a good thing, but hardly "momentum"

What freedom for what millions are you talking about?

Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

If we pull out of Iraq at this point the message to the extremist is clear. We lack the will and the desire to protect our friends and we have no honor. If we pull out it emboldened those fence sitters and forces our "friends" to join with the extremist for protection since we obviously will not give it to them. Will we be overrun in 10 years, 20 years? I don't know, I do know that just as much of Europe is now losing its heritage to the Muslim invasion so will we. Look at what is happening at several airports around the country. Public tax money is being used to build facilities for Muslims to be able to wash their feet before prayer. Tell me what would be the response of the liberal left if tax dollars were spent on any Christian facilities. Muslim taxi drivers are refusing to pick up passengers in Indianapolis who have alcohol in their possession. What would be the reaction of the left if white drivers refused to pick up black passengers?

If you cannot at least entertain the possibility of a muslim takeover of this country eventually you lack the ability to understand the true issues at stake

Originally Posted by Smitty0311

NO MATTER HOW MUCH IRAQ IMPROVES, LIBERALS WILL TRY TO DISCREDIT THE CLAIM! THE GENERAL BETREAUS ADD IS A TESTAMENT TO THAT!