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09-11-2007, 07:48 AM
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Death to America
This has been IRANS motto since carter let IRAN be taken over by the fundamentalist. Even in there schools before the day begins all the children chant. Death to America...
I wonder what will happen when they get there nukes.
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09-11-2007, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by gixaholic
This has been IRANS motto since carter let IRAN be taken over by the fundamentalist. Even in there schools before the day begins all the children chant. Death to America...
I wonder what will happen when they get there nukes.
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Gix, but Iran isn't our enemy or so the liberals would tell you.
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09-11-2007, 09:14 AM
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Iran is our enemy because of American Imperialist ventures in the middle east since the 1950s. Close your eyes all you want, but it is true.
We removed people from power not because of Carter. CIA intelligence recomended it to begin with. Then we remove the only counter to Iran's strength, and what the fuck now? Iran is a problem!!! Who wouldve thought that.
Look, I love America. Moreso than most people. Our Foreign policy since the end of world War 2 has not been very American and has lead to every single god damn problem weve got now.
Agressive wars of American intervention.
Korea
Vietnam
Iraq1
Iraq2
Soon to be Iran.
Number of those wars we have actually won.
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Look sugar coat your crap with blind statements of patriotism all you like. The truth is American foreign policy created all the fundementalist Islamists who are trying to kill us. They created the ruthless dictators in Asia. Selling them weapons in some cases.
American foreign policy is broken. It does not work. It needs to change.
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09-11-2007, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by satv365
Iran is our enemy because of American Imperialist ventures in the middle east since the 1950s. Close your eyes all you want, but it is true.
We removed people from power not because of Carter. CIA intelligence recomended it to begin with. Then we remove the only counter to Iran's strength, and what the fuck now? Iran is a problem!!! Who wouldve thought that.
Look, I love America. Moreso than most people. Our Foreign policy since the end of world War 2 has not been very American and has lead to every single god damn problem weve got now.
Agressive wars of American intervention.
Korea
Vietnam
Iraq1
Iraq2
Soon to be Iran.
Number of those wars we have actually won.
..........
Look sugar coat your crap with blind statements of patriotism all you like. The truth is American foreign policy created all the fundementalist Islamists who are trying to kill us. They created the ruthless dictators in Asia. Selling them weapons in some cases.
American foreign policy is broken. It does not work. It needs to change.
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here you are rewritting history. Korea and Vietnam where proxy wars with the Soviets. America is not the enemy. The wotld has prospered under American Tuttalage. The onyl problems have been with country who's leaders dont like the fact that we are the worlds leaders. and that is a fact.
i posted this in a another thread because it directly reflects exactly what the situation is.....
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in a perfect world no one would get involved or want know about anyone elses business. But if you think people are this way then you are clearly not dealing with a full deck of cards.
Since the End of WW2 America has proven itself to be a good stewart to all nations. The only ones that have problems with the united states are the country who's leaders dont like the fact that we are number #1.....
And i am sorry i dont think it is in the world intrest for America to capitulate to a country's leaders who dont like the fact we are the big dog. And that is all this is about.
History has also tought us that every time we capitulated it has been unequvicly bad for the world. Vietnam, the Rise of Iranian Mullahs, the complete and utter non action after american intrest had been terrorized. And i know you are going to say, "but Gix we did nothing after many of those events or attempt to stop these things from happening" And that is exactly the problem. Because doing nothing is like bowing your head down.
But i tell you what i would rather live in a world where America set the rules and policed the world rather then live in a world where enemies of the last 60 years would be it's replacement. IE Soviet Union, North Korea, Vietnam, Iran, Iraq.
America is good. And good people know this....
A great man once said and i quote
You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done.
Ronald Reagan
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09-11-2007, 03:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gixaholic
This has been IRANS motto since carter let IRAN be taken over by the fundamentalist. Even in there schools before the day begins all the children chant. Death to America...
I wonder what will happen when they get there nukes.
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Wasn't there a period there when the Conservative God himself was selling these people arms so he could fund his illegal war with the contras?
Who knows... it's possible we have our own weapons being used against us by Iran in Iraq? who knows... Reagan is at war with Bush.... amazing.
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09-11-2007, 03:15 PM
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Hopefully when they get their nukes your home is their main target...
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09-11-2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by I_Hate_the_Nazi_Right
Hopefully when they get their nukes your home is their main target...
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Good one IHNR. 
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09-11-2007, 03:29 PM
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Sorry ET, but I've been called a traitor all day so I'm a little defensive.
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09-11-2007, 07:18 PM
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News flash, if we were to pull all troops out of the ME and stop supporting Isreal, the Radical Muslims would still hate us and attack us. Carter and Clinton tried talking to these animals where did it get us?
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09-11-2007, 10:35 PM
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I hear comments and read them every day by Americans that say Muslims should be wiped out,nuked,ragheads shoulbe nuked,Iran should be attacked,high government officials(High on something ,not reality)stating Iran should be and will be attacked,etc
Death to muslims,ragheads,etc even schoolkids in America say and support this.
Is this the majority opinion in America?
No, but it is the opinion of some.
What is the point?
Think about it.
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