Death to America

sotmfs · #11 (**permalink**) 09-11-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gixaholic

This has been IRANS motto since carter let IRAN be taken over by the fundamentalist. Even in there schools before the day begins all the children chant. Death to America...

I wonder what will happen when they get there nukes.

Goes further back than carter.
Try the early 1950's when our government helped end a democracy and installed a ruthless,murderous,dictator ,the shah of iran, as leader of Iran.
The Iranians would not hate Americans just because Carter "let" Iran be taken over by the fundamentalists,what sense would that make?

36shadow · #12 (**permalink**) 09-12-2007, 12:32 AM

America is good and filled with good people but our govt. has made some very bad decisions in the past puting personal agendas above that of the people of this country as far a jelous no I think pissed about how we have thrown our wait around and try to justify it we can not save the world. I don't agree with middle east policy and a lot of other things but then they have been practicing them for over 3000 years and we as westerners can not realy grasp it not totaly. I don't claim to know the answers but I do know that how we have allowed our govt. to go about it for the last 50 or so years is no answer. Should we leave Iraq right now hell know unfortunately we screwed up on how we went about things (not to say we should not have brought the fight to the terrorist )and now we are commited to finish it and to do otherwise will cause bigger problems and loss of life. Like it or not we have given these guys hope and have convinced a lot of them that it can change if we leave before they are strong enough to do so we might as well shoot them ourselves. You don't have to like someone to respect there right to life even if they are fucked up in the head.

SINO-SOVIET · #13 (**permalink**) 09-12-2007, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sotmfs

Goes further back than carter.
Try the early 1950's when our government helped end a democracy and installed a ruthless,murderous,dictator ,the shah of iran, as leader of Iran.
The Iranians would not hate Americans just because Carter "let" Iran be taken over by the fundamentalists,what sense would that make?

Why the hell is it our fault that that happened? the blame is on the iranian people. They should have done something about the dictator,rather than sitting ideally by with their thumbs up their asses blaming it all on America. No matter what anyone says,in the end it is up to the people and their representives (not like democratic ones;think party leaders) to end oppression and free themselves. think of America. The French may have helped us, but they didnt initate the revolution. The American People did. But maybe those sandniggers are too stupid for such a thing. I guess only whites are able to hold their own in these matters.

sotmfs · #14 (**permalink**) 09-12-2007, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SINO-SOVIET

Why the hell is it our fault that that happened? the blame is on the iranian people. They should have done something about the dictator,rather than sitting ideally by with their thumbs up their asses blaming it all on America. No matter what anyone says,in the end it is up to the people and their representives (not like democratic ones;think party leaders) to end oppression and free themselves. think of America. The French may have helped us, but they didnt initate the revolution. The American People did. But maybe those sandniggers are too stupid for such a thing. I guess only whites are able to hold their own in these matters.

Our government helps in overthrowing a democratic government and install a dictator-one would have to be a moron(unless being sarcastic)to ask why it is our faukt.
The Iranians did due something,they removed the shah.

Moggy · #15 (**permalink**) 09-12-2007, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SINO-SOVIET

Why the hell is it our fault that that happened? the blame is on the iranian people. They should have done something about the dictator,rather than sitting ideally by with their thumbs up their asses blaming it all on America. No matter what anyone says,in the end it is up to the people and their representives (not like democratic ones;think party leaders) to end oppression and free themselves. think of America. The French may have helped us, but they didnt initate the revolution. The American People did. But maybe those sandniggers are too stupid for such a thing. I guess only whites are able to hold their own in these matters.

So with that logic, then it is right of the rest of the world to blame Americans for the idiot they elected.?

sachem · #16 (**permalink**) 09-12-2007, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Moggy

So with that logic, then it is right of the rest of the world to blame Americans for the idiot they elected.?

"We" are responsible for the "idiot" we elected.

Moggy · #17 (**permalink**) 09-12-2007, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sachem

"We" are responsible for the "idiot" we elected.

Yes I understand, just like we the people of Australia elected that same dickhead 3 times in a row, now how stupid is that. Mind you, when Howard came into power they changed the marking of your ballot paper from pen to pencil, Hmmm, something fishy there. Just like the last of your elections, when the company that made the computer ballot boxes, was associated with the Bush family company. Hmmmm.

Joe_King · #18 (**permalink**) 09-12-2007, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sotmfs

I hear comments and read them every day by Americans that say Muslims should be wiped out,nuked,ragheads shoulbe nuked,Iran should be attacked,high government officials(High on something ,not reality)stating Iran should be and will be attacked,etc
Personally; Iran scares the heck out of me.
as I see it - they are up to their own plan to become ultimate Muslims by eradicating infidel's
Death to muslims,ragheads,etc even schoolkids in America say and support this.
Is this the majority opinion in America?
No, but it is the opinion of some.
What is the point?
Think about it.

Good Question!

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Is this the majority opinion in America?

If a religion which is very different from your own says YOU MUST A) CONVERT or B) DIE
then you see them killing off others who believe in the writings of their own Holy Book (not the non believers but followers of their faith?)

Are you going to sit there and say:

AWWW!! Such nice people!

Not Me! I am armed and prepared to defend my Nation on my land!

If they succeed in ridding the Mideast of Israel - why would they stop with the one goal?

What possible reason do we as Americans ever have to honestly think they won't come after our people (the Infidels)?

Personally; I think that 99% of religion is garbage (as in he Said/She Said crap) - Theology and Faith in a Creator are (to me) the right way to go!

Smitty0311 · #19 (**permalink**) 09-12-2007, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by satv365

Iran is our enemy because of American Imperialist ventures in the middle east since the 1950s. Close your eyes all you want, but it is true.

We removed people from power not because of Carter. CIA intelligence recomended it to begin with. Then we remove the only counter to Iran's strength, and what the fuck now? Iran is a problem!!! Who wouldve thought that.

Look, I love America. Moreso than most people. Our Foreign policy since the end of world War 2 has not been very American and has lead to every single god damn problem weve got now.

Agressive wars of American intervention.

Korea
Vietnam
Iraq1
Iraq2
Soon to be Iran.

Number of those wars we have actually won.

..........

Look sugar coat your crap with blind statements of patriotism all you like. The truth is American foreign policy created all the fundementalist Islamists who are trying to kill us. They created the ruthless dictators in Asia. Selling them weapons in some cases.

American foreign policy is broken. It does not work. It needs to change.

Typical liberal. Appologise to our enemys who are trying to kill our innicent and blame America for making them upset. Appeasment all the way!