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09-14-2007, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Smitty0311
Of course you woud critisize thoes who retaliate in defence againsts a visable enemy and defend thoes who target civilians.
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That would make both sides guilty of war-crimes and human rights abuses, as both Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have pointed out.
One difference between the two is that I, as an American taxpayer, pay for most of those toys Israel gets to play with. When they level a city, it's kind of like us leveling a city, since we know about and pat Israel on the back afterward.
That kind of shit pisses people off, and may cause them to strike at the country funding Israels "indiscriminate bombing of Lebanon."
On another note, I don't support countries that use God to say they have a right to take back the land they had 2000 years ago and throw the people living there into a ghetto.
If we held that against the Nazis, we should do the same with Israel.
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09-17-2007, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Spliff
That would make both sides guilty of war-crimes and human rights abuses, as both Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have pointed out.
One difference between the two is that I, as an American taxpayer, pay for most of those toys Israel gets to play with. When they level a city, it's kind of like us leveling a city, since we know about and pat Israel on the back afterward.
That kind of shit pisses people off, and may cause them to strike at the country funding Israels "indiscriminate bombing of Lebanon."
On another note, I don't support countries that use God to say they have a right to take back the land they had 2000 years ago and throw the people living there into a ghetto.
If we held that against the Nazis, we should do the same with Israel.
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YOUR AN EXTREAMIST! PURE AND SIMPLE!
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09-17-2007, 06:26 PM
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Political Mastermind
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Spliff
That would make both sides guilty of war-crimes and human rights abuses, as both Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have pointed out.
One difference between the two is that I, as an American taxpayer, pay for most of those toys Israel gets to play with. When they level a city, it's kind of like us leveling a city, since we know about and pat Israel on the back afterward.
That kind of shit pisses people off, and may cause them to strike at the country funding Israels "indiscriminate bombing of Lebanon."
On another note, I don't support countries that use God to say they have a right to take back the land they had 2000 years ago and throw the people living there into a ghetto.
If we held that against the Nazis, we should do the same with Israel.
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Obviously you are anti-Jewish and are a Palestinian Sympathizer. While I can support the Peace seeking Pals and feel they deserve a State, I have become jaded to their prospects of accomplishing this as long as the people will vote for radical Extremists like Hamas has proven to be.
Israel has long been on the front line against Terrorism and should have the right to defend itself against those who are sworn to its destruction. I am proud of America for backing the Jewish state as we have done for decades and with all certainty Israel must Survive.
I was born in the early fifties and in the sixties I wittnessed the destruction of Airplane Hijackings and Suicide bombers the PLO and groups like Hamas sent into Israel. I remember the six day war very well and also remember seeing Young Israelis blown to bits by Suicide bombers. Their way of waging war is way beyond sickening and I have little sympathy for them.
The Palestinian cause is worldwide much more responsible for many more Deaths than the Israelis have ever done.
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09-17-2007, 07:22 PM
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Political Novice
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Originally Posted by countryslim
Obviously you are anti-Jewish
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How? Because I judge their country like I would judge other countries?
I support, and have supported, the Kurdish and Naive American struggles against tyranny just as much as I have supported the Palestinians.
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and are a Palestinian Sympathizer.
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I have a soft spot for the oppressed.
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While I can support the Peace seeking Pals and feel they deserve a State, I have become jaded to their prospects of accomplishing this as long as the people will vote for radical Extremists like Hamas has proven to be.
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I support the right of the Palestinians to a share of their homeland, at least.
And them obtaining it by any means necessary.
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I was born in the early fifties and in the sixties I wittnessed the destruction of Airplane Hijackings and Suicide bombers the PLO and groups like Hamas sent into Israel. I remember the six day war very well and also remember seeing Young Israelis blown to bits by Suicide bombers. Their way of waging war is way beyond sickening and I have little sympathy for them.
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Both strategically, tactically, and morally, Yes, terrorism is absolutely wrong. But that crime is but secondary to oppression. If I had learned that Czech resistance fighters had bombed a German building in 1942, killing civilians, I would be ecstatic. If I was Czech, the bombers would be my heroes.
Oh, and Israel launched the six day war. You might be thinking of the 1973 "Yom Kippur/Ramadan" War.
Oh, and we (the US) have blown up several Cuban airliners. is that sickening?
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09-18-2007, 12:48 AM
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Is the action of Hezballah and different than those of Blackwater when it comes to killing civilians?
Is the actions of the US paying for a mercenary army that the US has effectively placed outside the reach of all law any different than those of Iran paying a mercenary group?
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09-18-2007, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mulp
Is the action of Hezballah and different than those of Blackwater when it comes to killing civilians?
Is the actions of the US paying for a mercenary army that the US has effectively placed outside the reach of all law any different than those of Iran paying a mercenary group?
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KILLING CIVILIANS????? WHERES YOUR PROOF?
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09-18-2007, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Spliff
How? Because I judge their country like I would judge other countries?
I support, and have supported, the Kurdish and Naive American struggles against tyranny just as much as I have supported the Palestinians.
I have a soft spot for the oppressed.
I support the right of the Palestinians to a share of their homeland, at least.
And them obtaining it by any means necessary.
Both strategically, tactically, and morally, Yes, terrorism is absolutely wrong. But that crime is but secondary to oppression. If I had learned that Czech resistance fighters had bombed a German building in 1942, killing civilians, I would be ecstatic. If I was Czech, the bombers would be my heroes.
Oh, and Israel launched the six day war. You might be thinking of the 1973 "Yom Kippur/Ramadan" War.
Oh, and we (the US) have blown up several Cuban airliners. is that sickening?
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People like Slim will use the anti-semite card whenever someone doesn't give Israel Carte Blanche. It's a very limited mindset they operate under, and has nothing to do with logic/fairness, and everything to do with theology and personal belief.
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09-18-2007, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Smitty0311
YOUR AN EXTREAMIST! PURE AND SIMPLE!
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You're an idiot! Pure and simple!
Turn off the caps lock bozo
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09-18-2007, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CrankyYankee
You're an idiot! Pure and simple!
Turn off the caps lock bozo
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GOT ANYTHING TO BACK THAT UP OR ARE YOU JUST PARTAKING IN MORE LIBERAL NAME CALLING THAT YOU GUYS ARE KNOWNED SO WELL FOR?
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09-18-2007, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Smitty0311
GOT ANYTHING TO BACK THAT UP OR ARE YOU JUST PARTAKING IN MORE LIBERAL NAME CALLING THAT YOU GUYS ARE KNOWNED SO WELL FOR?
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Laughs, I was responding to your name calling post.
You truly are dense eh?
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