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The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.

Norman Thomas

Hope that hand hurts a lot.






just kidding

Hey Stryker, time to take off the uniform and find a real job. I don't think I'm comfortable having folks in the military that are so willing to demonize one party or the other. That is, your fellow countrymen. You fight for all of us, shouldn't be against us. You're welcome to your political leanings, but to attempt to raise your very flawed party up by vilifying, not politicians, but your fellow citizens is very bad form and dangerous to the population. You're young and relatively new to the political infighting game, so I've tried to cut you some slack.

But I would really like to see you be one of the ones to set a higher example for the rest. Take the highground soldier. Attack the pols to your hearts content, but stand united with your fellow countrymen. As a soldier, you expect all of us to stand united in our support of you, reciprocate.

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Oh get a sense of humor you uptight douche.

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The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.

Norman Thomas

OH it's funny... as was your escalator vid. But the premise isn't all that funny anymore. It needs to be taken seriously. We are being actively driven apart by forces we feel are beyond our control. Contributing to it, even in a funny way, is joining the problem, not finding solutions.

I may be uptight, but you are far too apathetic. I say this to you because you are one of the first soldiers I've seen on this site that isn't rabid in their conservatism... That is, I respect you more than most. So tell me soldier, are you gonna take the easy path, go for the easy joke, or are you going to protect the principles this country was founded on, as an individual? United we stand brotha. It's not an easy path... it's the hardest fight that exsits today.. battling against pervasive paradigm, media fueled bullshit.

I just think its sad that so many treat this as anything less than the most dangerous threat to this country. But I guess I mistakenly expected more from you. But, be the party stooge if you wish. I just hope you aren't in the army when they start rounding up enemies of the state.

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It would still be funny to you if I were an Obama voter.

Imagine that, a democrat looking for solutions. Ya know what drives me to my side of the fence?

YouTube - Progressive "Peace" Protesters Burn Effigy of U.S. Soldier

I hate them and everyone like them, but I will always do my job and I would always fight for them, whether they like it or not. BTW that bitch who chimes in at 2:47 pisses me off the most.

I guess I'll have to work on that.

I know this is your round about way of saying soldiers shouldnt have opinions so I forgive you for that.

Youre right about that. United we stand, divided we fall. I love this country. I realized that on September 12th 2001. In the years since Ive also come to understand another threat to our nation. Our very own 5th column.

The people who say 9-11 was an inside job. The people in the above link. The people who hate this country, who burn our flags, harass recruiters, bomb their stations, spit in the face of those who give so much to a people who dont even deserve it. But despite all that I would STILL die for any of them. And yes, I will still maintain my sense of humor.

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The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.

Norman Thomas

I thought your old movie clip was funny.
The punchline "Democrat" could have as easily been substituted for "Republican" "troops" or any other group because within each of these groups we have citizens who just blindly follow without much thought. That type of intellect is not unique to just one group.


This is where you become irrational, illogical and and emotional. You have allowed yourself to take this small minority of people and project their extremism on one political party.



Of course soldiers or any other citizen should have opinions and express them. However when people like those in the video or other divisive people make comments that leads to reactions.

Once you expressed joy on the death of Rachel Corey with a scoreboard of :

Palestine 0 and Israel 3.

That was divisive and falls into extremism, but I would not generalize all soldiers as sharing your views.


Sure you can have opinions about people like that and comment. Do you really want to make generalized judgments on almost half of American citizens based on some extremists?

Who do you think pays for all the boys who go into the military and votes for veterans benefits when they come home?


Well, fortunately you have not had to put yourself on the line for the safety of any citizens at this point. I know you have been in combat and I saw all your pictures of dead men and boys, but I do not think any of those people were any threat to American citizens.

Anyway, you seem like a nice kid and I recognize going to Iraq put your life on the line.

Please consider the overall generalizations you make on others and how you demonize almost half of the citizens. Most of the ones you demonize are people whose tax revenues pay for not only the military , but wars that are started on deception and greed and not for defense.

The people you demonize also serve in the military, provide healthcare to the military, pay the bills of the military and vote on legislation for veterans benefits.

Well said! .... young hero of mine .....

BA..... self proclaimed "independent" is a liberal ...... period.

The silly twat has bullshitted himself so much .... he ..... imagines others are as stupid as he (I'd spot the bitch 20 IQ points and back it up with a cash wager) ...... no..... he imagines he is smarter than you or I and everyone else too.... hell I posted the "escalator vid" that he accused you of posting....... unless you too posted it and I haven't seen such.

I too profess to being "independent" ..... but I also tell you I'm conservative ...... it's like BA wants us to believe he is ...... neutral ......
by claiming to be independent ...... again BA is a lib..... period.

.....just keep doing what you are doing Stryker ..... cheesedicks of BA's ilk don't amount to shit in the real world.....

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Political Correctness defined :
A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

I know it upsets your veiw of the world, but there are those of us that rise above party associations and fight, not for party power or majority, but to restore the political power of the People and the representation necessary to exercise that power. I'm not a Dem, or lib, or a 'pub. I'm a constructionist centrist.

And you think these potsmoking acid freak college kids are representative of the majority of Liberals? I find it a constant source of amazement that folks will take the most extreme of a group, those that a majority of a group would readily denounce, and apply that behaviour to all. You think there aren't extremists on the right that get held up as examples of the more sane majority of traditional conservatives? So, you would rather join in than help bring about conditions of unity?

kinda funny...

I don't sugarcoat, or ambiguously say anything, there is nothing to read between the lines, I say what I mean and mean what I say. If you are compelled to add to that... that comes from you not me. I know literally thousands of solidiers, from privates (lots of privates) to generals. Don't put words in my mouth soldier. If I say I respect you more than most, that's EXACTLY what I mean. But just more evidence that you would rather vilify than listen to what is actually being said.

There are always nut jobs and cranks with loud voices in every population. If you are looking for a utopia, well... good luck. These people aren't the real threats. Hell, half of the perceived threat is hyperbole. The real threat, and it has always been so, is the government you so readily defend. Your job is not to defend the government, but the people and their freedoms. The founders were very specific about needing to be vigilant against them. That's were the standing united thing comes in. If you act as a shill for the gov't, an enabler of the party system that has taken us far from the path of a true republic, then you are part of the problem, not the solution.

All of these groups you mention are small minorities of opinion among the population. Big deal. If I took every neo-con Bush apologist, lib hater as evidence of all conservatives, and likewise for libs, I'd have gone on a shooting rampage long ago. It's simply not the case. Most folks are far more level headed, if not too apathetic to care. Reject the spin, the generalizations, the blanket statements and embrace unity. That doesn't mean you have to believe what others believe, but know they are not your enemy or a danger to a pretectionist government.

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Cut the quote short of sounding like baacaca is again almost taking a position, probably because he's drunk.

Baa, you are as Freudian in spilling forth your own pathological personality as OB is about divulging her lust.

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