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Old 09-05-2008, 12:32 PM
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I am a descendant of the colonists who wrote the Declaration of Independence and fought and won the American Revolution. What kind of American does that make me?

Why are you even asking this question?
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Old 09-05-2008, 01:08 PM
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Which Citizen Are You?

Nov. 1989
by Richard McDonald

(PP) Date Line - America

What kind of citizen are you? Are you a 14th Amendment
federal citizen, or are you a Citizen of the several States, as
described in the Constitution as it was originally intended by
the Founding Fathers?
Are you aware that there exists in this
Nation two separate and distinct classes of citizenship?

To begin with, I must define what the definition that the
Original Constitution used when it referred to the "Citizens."

The phrase "Citizen of the United States" had a specific
meaning in the Original Constitution for the United States of
America (1787), the definition and intent of the Constitution was
that it described a "free born Citizen of the several States."
The 14th Amendment added a second (2nd) distinct meaning to this
phrase. So now, the phrase "Citizen of the United States" has
two separate and distinct meanings which are not compatible with
each other and indeed in a later issue will be shown to be at
odds with one another. They are:

1. A free born White State Citizen in the several States,
is an individual whose inalienable rights are recognized,
secured, and protected by the various State Constitutions against
State actions and against federal intrusion by the Constitution
for the United States of America(1787).

2. The 14th Amendment federal citizen, who is a second
class citizen, a juristic person, a citizen of foreign or
interstate commerce, one who has congressionally granted
privileges that are almost equal to the White Citizen.
I say
almost because these privileges are secured against a debt of
submission
to the morality legislated by Congress (including
Income Tax)
. These individuals are subjects of Congress (alieni
juris), under their protection as a "resident" of a State, a
person enfranchised to the Federal Government (the incorporated
United States defined in Article I, section 8, clause 17.)
The
individual States may not deny to these persons any federal
privileges or immunities that Congress has granted to them. This
specific class of citizens is a federal citizen under admiralty
(International Law).
As such they do not have unalienable common
rights recognized, secured and protected in the Constitutions of
the States, or of the United States of America (1787), such as
allodial rights to property, the right to inheritance, the
unalienable rights to work and contract, the right to travel,
life, liberty and happiness among many others.


Thus the federal citizen is a taxable entity such as any
other corporation, and is subject to pay an excise tax for the
privileges that Congress has granted them.


The White De Jure Citizen is a State Citizen by birth and
race (the Common Law) first, then as a consequence of his State
Citizenship, he is a "Citizen of the United States of America"
second. He owes his allegiance to his State of Domicile first,
and then to the Union of the several States.

The 14th Amendment citizen is a de facto citizen, a "citizen
of the United States" (corporate citizen of the District of
Columbia, its territories, and federal enclaves per Article I,
section 8, clause 17) first, as a consequence of this
citizenship, he is allowed to be a resident within the several
States. For this and other privileges he owes his allegiance to
the United States (corporation per Article I, section 8, clause
17) first, then to the State of his residence.


Note that "Domicile" and "residence" are not synonymous.
See Black's Law Dictionary, 5th Ed.

The Internal Revenue Code's definition of the term "citizen"
is identical to the wording of the 14th Amendment, and can only
apply to the subjects of Congress.
The Social Security Number
(SSN), a badge of slavery, is the main registration number of the de facto 14th Amendment citizen, so Congress can tax their subjects (slaves) wherever they are resident.


NOW, which citizen are YOU? a White State Citizen or a de facto resident?


You must decide -- this is a personal decision
-- and notify the appropriate government officials of your status
with respect to them. Be prepared though -- the United States
(District of Columbia) does not want their slaves to escape. If
they did, the profit of the Federal Reserve would dry up and you
might lead the Exodus out of Egypt.


////////////////////////////////////////////////////


Now that you are saying to yourselves that I am full of shit feast yer lil ole eyes on this!

Verified Statement Challenging Grand Jury Selection Policy:

In the fundamental law, the notion of a "citizen of the
United States" simply did not exist before the 14th Amendment;
at best, this notion is a fiction within a fiction. In
discussing the power of the States to naturalize, the California
State Supreme Court put it rather
bluntly when it ruled that there was no such thing as a "citizen of the United States":


A citizen of any one of the States of the union, is held to
be, and called a citizen of the United States, although
technically and abstractly there is no such thing. To
conceive a citizen of the United States who is not a citizen
of some one of the States, is totally foreign to the idea,
and inconsistent with the proper construction and common
understanding of the expression as used in the Constitution,
which must be deduced from its various other provisions.
The object then to be attained, by the exercise of the power
of naturalization, was to make citizens of the respective
States.
[Ex Parte Knowles, 5 Cal. 300 (1855)]

This decision has never been overturned!



So peeps of AWE sound off! Which "citizen" are you? (and are you happy with your citizenship or could things be a lot better? Does your government work for you or lead you? Do they listen to you or do you listen to them? I wonder if there are any Sovereigns on the board? I am betting not.

So is it time to take an interest in "Law"?

Whatcha all think about that? Is this all bull posted by a fanatic conspiracy theorist or are you paying those federal taxes because you love the irs so much?

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Old 09-05-2008, 01:11 PM
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I am a descendant of the colonists who wrote the Declaration of Independence and fought and won the American Revolution. What kind of American does that make me?

Why are you even asking this question?
he fought? may i ask who? just cause he helped write the crap, just means hes more guilty of corruption then any other. did he actualy fight? great. who?
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Old 09-05-2008, 01:47 PM
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he fought? may i ask who? just cause he helped write the crap, just means hes more guilty of corruption then any other. did he actualy fight? great. who?
One of my ancestors is General Nathanael Greene. He is mentioned in Revolutionary war history. There are others in a more complicated history.

That is the truth and I won't elaborate further here ..... some of the pickers of the fly shit from the black pepper here ..... would have it too easy to connect all of the dots....
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Old 09-05-2008, 01:57 PM
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great Gummer. so you ARE a citizen of these lands. welcome. { my pogrom would have for all to give their DNA to show they belonged. and the ones who didnt, well thered have to be a program to establish if they kept their money or not when they got the boot. }
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Old 09-05-2008, 01:59 PM
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great Gummer. so you ARE a citizen of these lands. welcome. { my pogrom would have for all to give their DNA to show they belonged. and the ones who didnt, well thered have to be a program to establish if they kept their money or not when they got the boot. }
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Old 09-05-2008, 02:08 PM
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he fought? may i ask who? just cause he helped write the crap, just means hes more guilty of corruption then any other. did he actualy fight? great. who?
I must ask, jebe ......are you of the opinion the Declaration of Independence is ...... crap? ..... written by the corrupt?
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Old 09-05-2008, 02:10 PM
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I must ask, jebe ......are you of the opinion the Declaration of Independence is ...... crap? ..... written by the corrupt?
jebe is descended from the original Americans....this belonged to his people first.
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yes. while the signers might have had great intent, { im not so sure all did though }, it was usurped way before the occasion. for it never adressed the issues that it glossed over, thereby allowing it to be left to ones own interpretations.
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Old 09-05-2008, 02:34 PM
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jebe is descended from the original Americans....this belonged to his people first.
Agreed ..... and the rest is ...... history ....... none of us here now had a hand in it ..... neither I nor jebe ...... it happened ..... it is what it is ..... I'm more interested in NOW and the future of ALL of us ......

Would it suit you to hand what we have to the "natives of this land" ...... (I admit NOT knowing what the "natives of this land" now called America called it before it became the United States America) ..... and let them solve the problems that face this nation from those in the world who consider us and our beliefs their enemy?
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