Originally Posted by oceanbreeze

Agreed, except for the abstinence.
As a parent, I have signed a waiver for my daughter to attend the class in 5th grade and it was a Christian school.

Originally Posted by Lasher

Yessir, you are correct, and most of these kikes and kikettes in here come from the shallow end of the gene pool.

Originally Posted by cottonbroker

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Gummer

mmmmmmm..... This subject strikes a nerve on me.

I have raised 4 children through the pitfalls of modern society and the education system in America on my own dime. All are self sustaining citizens with a sense of personal responsibility. Only one, an accountant by education, is employed by a govt. entity as a purchasing agent. She makes damn sure the taxpayer is getting their money's worth when she spends public money and I'm proud of her for that. The other three are in careers that aren't likely to be exported to other Countries ...... Registered Nurse, Electrical Contractor and an Attorney.

When I see some unkempt, lard ass woman with 3 or 4 scuzzy screaming or whining brats in tow ..... buying food products (ready to pop in the microwave) with food stamps ..... I wonder why we (taxpayers) can't say....when the first of those children was brought to public assistance. ok.... we are going to give you public funds for THIS one that you have produced with no thought of the 20 years of responsibility YOU have created. It is your responsibility to make damn sure you don't produce another public charge ..... and I'm willing to provide at public expense birth control ...... which you are required to use faithfully until you can start paying for him/her and any future offspring. Another such occurence would require mandatory sterilization if she wished to continue receiving public money for HER self aquired responsibilities.

I don't mean to excuse the sperm donor either ...... that bastard is just as responsible as the mother and should be persued all the way to jail if necessary to take and make good on the responsibility they created.

Bottom line..... I can cut you some slack for initial mistakes in dealing with parental obligations..... but if you can't support your own children ....why the hell would you think I care to do so?

There it is! Attack me all you want..... it is simple common sense and if that wisdom escapes you....I really don't give a shit.

Originally Posted by Back Atcha

Good God, is everyone on these boards a master at misdirecting blame for social ills and political foibles?

What about the family of seven that has honor students, talented musicians, and community spirit? Are they to be penalized by this third+ child tax for raising productive members of society? Is it really the number of people being born into this country, or their perceived value as educated people?

Maybe TV and video games play a role in allowing the youngsters to use their time for pursuits other than learning. Maybe it's the parents apathy to having the kids in the first place, the same apathy and lack of information that resulted in under use of contraception. Maybe it's the poor state of our public schools. Perhaps it's the fact that Americans each withdraw from their communities, unwilling to help their neighbors or get involved until someone else does first.

How many brothers and sisters a child has, has no bearing on their intelligence or value in society. How they are raised and the involvement of those in their community does. Get off your asses, stop bitching and GET INVOLVED!

As for the birth rate... there is an economic principle that says that [the more hands you have to do work, the more productive an economy is, the more prosperous are it's people]. The birthrate is not the problem.

Originally Posted by Lasher

Are you too ignorant and stupid to teach your own child about sex, yet you'll turn her over to a stranger to teach her? You are a typical stupid, foolish liberal parent who thinks every facet of her education should be "taught" (indoctrinated) by the all-powerful "guvmint." You're an air-head for sending her to a public school in the first place.

Originally Posted by Gummer

mmmmmmm..... This subject strikes a nerve on me.

I have raised 4 children through the pitfalls of modern society and the education system in America on my own dime. All are self sustaining citizens with a sense of personal responsibility. Only one, an accountant by education, is employed by a govt. entity as a purchasing agent. She makes damn sure the taxpayer is getting their money's worth when she spends public money and I'm proud of her for that. The other three are in careers that aren't likely to be exported to other Countries ...... Registered Nurse, Electrical Contractor and an Attorney.

When I see some unkempt, lard ass woman with 3 or 4 scuzzy screaming or whining brats in tow ..... buying food products (ready to pop in the microwave) with food stamps ..... I wonder why we (taxpayers) can't say....when the first of those children was brought to public assistance. ok.... we are going to give you public funds for THIS one that you have produced with no thought of the 20 years of responsibility YOU have created. It is your responsibility to make damn sure you don't produce another public charge ..... and I'm willing to provide at public expense birth control ...... which you are required to use faithfully until you can start paying for him/her and any future offspring. Another such occurence would require mandatory sterilization if she wished to continue receiving public money for HER self aquired responsibilities.

I don't mean to excuse the sperm donor either ...... that bastard is just as responsible as the mother and should be persued all the way to jail if necessary to take and make good on the responsibility they created.

Bottom line..... I can cut you some slack for initial mistakes in dealing with parental obligations..... but if you can't support your own children ....why the hell would you think I care to do so?

There it is! Attack me all you want..... it is simple common sense and if that wisdom escapes you....I really don't give a shit.

Originally Posted by Lasher

And I thank him too.

Originally Posted by ricechickie

What if you see a well-kept, fit woman with three or four well-kept, well-behaved children in tow, buying healthy food with food stamps?

And why do you assume the public assistance began with the first child?

I mean, I know that doesn't paint the picture you like to use.....