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05-13-2008, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dom1
It has very little with wanting to be correct.
My point? Have you been following along? I am saying that many cheating husbands will cheat even if he has a wife at home who is 'satisfying' his needs. You seem to want to lay a lot of blame on the women, and in some cases I am sure it is true, but you say that if a man cheats then there is something the woman could have done to prevent it. I say that even if the wife is doing all that she can and is a model wife some men will still cheat, especially when an opportunity presents itself. I am also saying that if you honestly believe that then you don't know anything about men.
Biologists agree with me.
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I'm not gonna continue to argue this ad nauseum, but let me just say that I wasn't blaming merely the woman. The man has a responsibility to maintain the coupleship as much as the wife does. Marriage is a partnership. It's the breakdown in the coupleship somewhere along the line that causes vulnerability.
If the husband's sex drive is that much stronger than the wife's, it's sexual incompatibility at work. If the wife's sex drive is stronger than the husband's, again it's sexual incompatibility in play.
On the other hand...if they have an open marriage and both parties are fine with that, they have no sexual incompatibility going on. They've agreed to a particular situation...thus compatibility is achieved.
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05-13-2008, 06:43 AM
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Guys want to do whomever, whenever. Those that don't 'cheat' are able to control it.
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...Pretty much covers it. 
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05-13-2008, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by oceanbreeze
hello jan? men only think with one head and it ain't the one on b/w their shoulders.
Anyway, that's a bunch of bull because I've been separated from my husband due to military deployment and guess what? FAITHFUL on both ends.
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You're one of the lucky ones, my cousin was in Afghanistan and her husband in the US for three months. Of course he couldn't keep his pants on so they're now divorced too.
Hope your luck holds out..
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05-13-2008, 09:00 AM
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You're one of the lucky ones, my cousin was in Afghanistan and her husband in the US for three months. Of course he couldn't keep his pants on so they're now divorced too.
Hope your luck holds out..
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It has nothing to do with luck, it is soldified by our marriage vows. 
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05-13-2008, 09:13 AM
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There is an old joke that goes.
A nymphomaniac is defined as a woman who can never get enough sex. She is willing to have sex with anyone, at any time, anywhere, regardless of the possible consequences. What do you call a man with the same tendencies?
The answer of course is "Normal"
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05-13-2008, 09:33 AM
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Maybe so
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You aren't right at all. You just confirm that you know very little about men. If they were getting it every night from their wife, most of those men who do cheat would still cheat. If anything, just to screw someone different. If you mean the wife isn't fulfilling his needs by letting him screw other people you would be correct, otherwise you would be wrong.
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Yes, that may be the herd bull instinct...so many cows...so little time 
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05-13-2008, 09:34 AM
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There is an old joke that goes.
A nymphomaniac is defined as a woman who can never get enough sex. She is willing to have sex with anyone, at any time, anywhere, regardless of the possible consequences. What do you call a man with the same tendencies?
The answer of course is "Normal"
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jan; there's your winning answer.
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05-13-2008, 10:29 AM
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Well as long as biologists agree with you. 
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Yep, and others on here are saying the same thing, like below.
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Originally Posted by sachem
Guys want to do whomever, whenever. Those that don't 'cheat' are able to control it.
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Yep, which is what I was saying. But hey, we have a defense, it is in our DNA. Isn't that what this thread is all about, making excuses for people who do these things and trying to lay blame on others? That has been what the majority of the posts have been about.
Last edited by Dom1; 05-13-2008 at 10:31 AM.
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05-13-2008, 11:16 AM
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I don't disagree with most of what you are saying, but my point is, that the husband is the one responsible for how his actions affect his family, not the mistress. Sure in the grand scheme of things she would be smart not to get involved for exactly the reason you stated. If he cheated once, he could again. I am tired of the women being labeled the whores and homewreckers, when he is the one with the home/family.
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Clearly, they are both home wreckers, the cheating husband and the mistress. I couldn't say it enough, THE MEN WERE MORE TO BLAME. But this inerview was between Oprah and Barbara Walters. And they were acting like the label of "mistress" was below them. I found it pretty nauseating. That was the point I was making. I wasn't excusing the husbands.
Yet, you heard an opportunity to come to the rescue of a fellow woman under attack. Why, these women? Why would you defend these actions? Because you did, at first. You said, that they were consenting adults and they weren't "cheating" on anyone. It's not just about those men cheating on the mistresses in the future. It's about it being a despicable thing to do from the beginning.
I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone to defend having an affair with a cheating husband. Yet you did. Because, being a liberal has taught you that WOMEN ARE VICTIMIZED BY MEN all the time. So, you can't even allow yourself to criticize two women who did something very wrong.
It's like when black people supported O.J. Victi-crat mentality can cloud your judgement. That is why Obama is still in the race eventhough his racist reverend preaches hate. THings would certainly be different if McCAin's "spiritual advisor" for TWENTY YEARS who baptized his children, married him, and was the inspiration for one of his books, preached WHITE POWER and believed that the U.S. was pumping drugs into trailer trash communities to kill poor white trash, that the U.S. invented AIDS to kill poor white trash, and that the U.S. deserves 9/11 for bombing white countries like Bosnia or Germany.
Yet Rev. Wright can say the same things and we cut Obama some slack, because he's black. White people can't judge black people. That's what Michael Moore said. And according to you, men can't judge women. Great code of victi-crat ethics, you liberals have devised.
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05-13-2008, 11:19 AM
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For the Morally aware people of conciousness, No affair or Quick Lay is worth the Spiritual Damage done when the after effects and Guilt kicks in with the realization that they were weak and faulty not to mention disloyal to themselves, plus their mate.
I could find few good memories about offhand sex for the need or excitment of it that would outweigh that lasting Scorn I would have for myself knowing I broke major laws of honoring myself and my values,
It takes two to Tango, and if the Woman weren't willing to let the man Mount her sexually, it'd be Rape... So yeah, a Selfish me-first Home-Wrecking opportunist Whore IS what she is...
There is NO Excuse for any affair without first being legally separated or divorced..
I'm not so weak that I'd sell my soul for a cheap, meaningless short term passion knowing full well those old Ghosts of Guilt would linger forever.
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