Thread: Health Care will and should not be for profit!...

Originally Posted by dairyair

Where do you think it would be free? Is the current system free? All I said is don't have the corps fattening the wallets of CEOs. Put the money back into the corp and to providing better service to the people who pay into it. Remember this is a SERVICE not a PRODUCT!

You're already confusing her...

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Originally Posted by Eann

You're already confusing her...

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Afraid not. Hey why don't you join me in the lobby? You'd have some real fun.

Originally Posted by kudzu

Yeah.. doctors are seeing more and more patients because their reimbursements continue to be cut.. so its not docs.. single payor is a good idea actually.. it will save 25% in administrative costs.

Horse manure. Where is the evidence for that? Single payer will have to perform all the same bureaucratic functions as multi-payer. Furthermore, it won't have the profit motive to keep costs down. Single payer will cost more, not less. All it can do is ration care. We'll be getting a lot less care than we get now, and wait times will grow astronomically.

Originally Posted by bripat

Horse manure. Where is the evidence for that? Single payer will have to perform all the same bureaucratic functions as multi-payer. Furthermore, it won't have the profit motive to keep costs down. Single payer will cost more, not less. All it can do is ration care. We'll be getting a lot less care than we get now, and wait times will grow astronomically.

We should do it until all the boomers get euthanised for hip replacement expenses, and then, revoke it.
Perfect!

Originally Posted by patriot2342001

I think doctors should be paid very well. There needs to be some major incentive for them to do all that work

May I ask, what do you think of Ass Crack's healthcare plan? Just $2 per visit. What a bargain, huh?

Originally Posted by GOPrapesUSA
I have a government plan.
I can see any Doctor, Specialist, Hospital and Clinic I want.
I pay 2 dollars per visit, 1 dollar for my meds.
Plus it covers my hospitalization 100%

Please show me a better private plan..
You can't.

I guess Ass Crack doesn't necessarily think doctors need to "be paid very well." As long as he gets what he needs, it looks like he could care less what the doctors get paid...or how much others have to pay to subsidize his governement-run healthcare plan.
By the way, that $2 per visit on Ass Crack's government plan, does it cover the nurses, medical and office supplies, adminstrative help, malparactice insurace (which BO apparently has any no intention of offering any relief), rent, and whatever else? In truth, Ass Crack has never revealed what he pays in premiums. Whatcha figure, $200? $300 a month. Hard to believe anyone could afford to give coverage to a sick piece of crap like Ass Crack.

So you think "doctors should be paid very well" do you? By whom? It would seem if you believe doctors should be paid very well you're not exaactly a big fan of government-run ObamaCare. But I could be mistaken.

Originally Posted by kudzu

Corporate hospitals will turn you away from the ER unless its life threatening... and if they can stabilize you they will dump you and transport you to another facility.

It was a nice try though, skudzo.

The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (42 U.S.C. § 1395dd, EMTALA) is a United States Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act. It requires hospitals and ambulance services to provide care to anyone needing emergency treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions. As a result of the act, patients needing emergency treatment can be discharged only under their own informed consent or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment.

Massachusets has a state plan with 98% of the state covered.. they love it and it's very successful...almost too successful....So how about looking into one that's working ..instead of shooting your mouths off about what it's going to be...when no one yet has a clue?

There's about 2 states besides Mass...they don't seem to be falling apart either..

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Originally Posted by Eann

Massachusets has a state plan with 98% of the state covered.. they love it and it's very successful...almost too successful....So how about looking into one that's working ..instead of shooting your mouths off about what it's going to be...when no one yet has a clue?

There's about 2 states besides Mass...they don't seem to be falling apart either..

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It's not successful, you moron. They are kicking 30,000 people off the rolls because they can't pay for it. They are sending immigrants home sick because they are cut off.

No state has higher insurance costs than Massachusetts.

Hawaii killed their keiki care becuse parents who could otherwise afford their own insurance were ripping off taxpayers and taking the government benefit.

Catch up on the news.

Originally Posted by Fraulein Hilda

It's not successful, you moron. They are kicking 30,000 people off the rolls because they can't pay for it. They are sending immigrants home sick because they are cut off.

No state has higher insurance costs than Massachusetts.

Hawaii killed their keiki care becuse parents who could otherwise afford their own insurance were ripping off taxpayers and taking the government benefit.

Catch up on the news.

They are redoing it..but they're not getting rid of it...

My, but your determined to kill all of it aren't you dear??...Are you in insurance or the drug companies?


Universal healthcare advances in Connecticut

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They can't afford it. It's the most expensive healthcare in the country. No cost savings. In fact, costs are going through the roof in Massachusetts. Another government lie debunked.

I used to work in healthcare, for payers, providers, Medicare, and Medicaid. Long enough to know you have your head up your ass if you think government should run it.

It's failed in every state it's been tried.