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05-01-2007, 10:58 AM
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It's not just us, this is a phenomenom, felt Nationwide. You can blame Reps. and Dems. They have collectively sold us out.
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05-01-2007, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mom_Adams
I'm sorry rdnor, but it would appear that your hometown is unfortunately situated in the middle of the new Nation of Aztlan. The only thing I can suggest is find a new hometown, because fighting for your old one won't be an option since your state and federal government are handing it over without a fight. They'll most likely come after you if you threaten that deal.
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So .... we should just give up ? Hand it over ? NO ! My family helped build this city and I will be damned if I will go quietly into the night . Screw Bush and the dems ! It is they that will be looking for work soon ! We would be better off with out of work construction workers for government and that is fact ! I wish Fred Thompson would announce his candidacy and quit screwing around .
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05-01-2007, 06:16 PM
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We have all been hung out to dry by the past 30 years of government. This is all a sick joke, and we still haven't reached the punchline stage yet.
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05-01-2007, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rdnor
So .... we should just give up ? Hand it over ? NO ! My family helped build this city and I will be damned if I will go quietly into the night . Screw Bush and the dems ! It is they that will be looking for work soon ! We would be better off with out of work construction workers for government and that is fact ! I wish Fred Thompson would announce his candidacy and quit screwing around .
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I totally agree and wish Fred Thompson would step up to the plate right now, so people don't start throwing money at loser candidates.
However, I would also warn you to be very, very careful if and when you plan to take your hometown back. Remember the big ATF raid in Alabama last week? Well, apparently someone else was planning on taking their hometown back. Like I said, this government (no longer our government) is waging war on us instead of the ones invading.
Feds Accuse Alabama Militia of Planning Machine-Gun Attack on Mexicans
BIRMINGHAM, Alabama — Five members of a self-styled Alabama militia were denied bond Tuesday after a federal agent testified they planned a machine-gun attack on Mexicans. A sixth man accused of having weapons and explosives components in his home was approved for release.
U.S. Magistrate Judge Robert Armstrong said he could not grant bond because of the agent's testimony and the large number of weapons — including about 200 homemade hand grenades and a launcher — that were seized in raids last Friday.
"I'm going to be worried if I let these individuals go at this time," the judge said.
The five are charged with conspiring to make a firearm.
Law enforcement authorities, meanwhile, continued to look for additional weapons that could be linked to the group, including in a local cave.
Adam Nesmith, an agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, testified that the five men planned an attack on Mexicans in a small town just north of Birmingham, and went there on a reconnaissance mission April 20.
Nesmith said one of the men told an informant that the group, which calls itself the Alabama Free Militia, saw government agents as "the enemy" and had a standing order to open fire if anyone saw government agents approaching.
The sixth man is charged with being a drug user in possession of a firearm. A federal agent testified they found two rooms loaded with guns and possible explosives components, including fireworks, ball bearings, primers, mouse traps, light bulbs and fertilizer.
A lawyer for one of the men has said the case has been overblown by authorities. He said his client began stockpiling items partly because of the scare of the Y2K computer glitch in 2000.
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05-01-2007, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mom_Adams
I totally agree and wish Fred Thompson would step up to the plate right now, so people don't start throwing money at loser candidates.
However, I would also warn you to be very, very careful if and when you plan to take your hometown back. Remember the big ATF raid in Alabama last week? Well, apparently someone else was planning on taking their hometown back. Like I said, this government (no longer our government) is waging war on us instead of the ones invading.
Feds Accuse Alabama Militia of Planning Machine-Gun Attack on Mexicans
BIRMINGHAM, Alabama — Five members of a self-styled Alabama militia were denied bond Tuesday after a federal agent testified they planned a machine-gun attack on Mexicans. A sixth man accused of having weapons and explosives components in his home was approved for release.
U.S. Magistrate Judge Robert Armstrong said he could not grant bond because of the agent's testimony and the large number of weapons — including about 200 homemade hand grenades and a launcher — that were seized in raids last Friday.
"I'm going to be worried if I let these individuals go at this time," the judge said.
The five are charged with conspiring to make a firearm.
Law enforcement authorities, meanwhile, continued to look for additional weapons that could be linked to the group, including in a local cave.
Adam Nesmith, an agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, testified that the five men planned an attack on Mexicans in a small town just north of Birmingham, and went there on a reconnaissance mission April 20.
Nesmith said one of the men told an informant that the group, which calls itself the Alabama Free Militia, saw government agents as "the enemy" and had a standing order to open fire if anyone saw government agents approaching.
The sixth man is charged with being a drug user in possession of a firearm. A federal agent testified they found two rooms loaded with guns and possible explosives components, including fireworks, ball bearings, primers, mouse traps, light bulbs and fertilizer.
A lawyer for one of the men has said the case has been overblown by authorities. He said his client began stockpiling items partly because of the scare of the Y2K computer glitch in 2000.
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Eh , home made grenades ? Is that what you think of me ? Drug users in possession of firearms and explosives ? Gee mom I think I am insulted . My plans have not included "machine gunning" Mexicans but they are having a grand ol time shooting at each other here in Houston .This is what gives the liberals the idea that if you do not believe in bending over and grabbing your ankles for the "immigrants" you MUST be at home making hand grenades . 
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05-01-2007, 08:38 PM
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The illegals have become a huge problem and nobody wants to do anything to stop this invasion. If citizens want to stop this the people are charged as vigilantes.
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05-01-2007, 09:25 PM
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Mom & Rdnor,
The problem lies with Congress and Corporations and Small Business's! We the People of this country have a huge dilemma on our hands.
How do we come together, both conservatives and liberals, ignore the Wedge Issues, and find away to recruit and finance with our own money Congress men and women who are willing to go to Congress and pass legislation to punish businesses who hire, lure, and exploit illegal workers!!!!
The current incumbent Congress on both sides of the isle is unwilling to levy heavy fines, stiff prison sentences on Corporations and Sm. Busn. who hire Illegal Aliens!
Dry up the jobs and the illegals will stop risking life and limb to come to this country b/c there's no jobs!
Our Congress, small busn's and Corporations have rolled the dice and are betting that "We The People" are gullible, mis-informed, divided and conquered to the point to where they believe avg voter is too ignorant to bring the Illegal worker dilemma to an end with our VOTE!!
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05-01-2007, 09:50 PM
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Mom & Rdnor,
The problem lies with Congress and Corporations and Small Business's! We the People of this country have a huge dilemma on our hands.
How do we come together, both conservatives and liberals, ignore the Wedge Issues, and find away to recruit and finance with our own money Congress men and women who are willing to go to Congress and pass legislation to punish businesses who hire, lure, and exploit illegal workers!!!!
The current incumbent Congress on both sides of the isle is unwilling to levy heavy fines, stiff prison sentences on Corporations and Sm. Busn. who hire Illegal Aliens!
Dry up the jobs and the illegals will stop risking life and limb to come to this country b/c there's no jobs!
Our Congress, small busn's and Corporations have rolled the dice and are betting that "We The People" are gullible, mis-informed, divided and conquered to the point to where they believe avg voter is too ignorant to bring the Illegal worker dilemma to an end with our VOTE!!
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Well said and I agree 100% Rasta . The way I see it the elections cannot get here fast enough so we can send GWB and crew as well as MANY in congress packing ! The anti incumbent mood must be ratcheted up to a roar !
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05-01-2007, 10:35 PM
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I dont know where your hometown is..but as the saying goes...they didnt cross the border, the border crossed them.
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05-02-2007, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RASTAMAN
Mom & Rdnor,
The problem lies with Congress and Corporations and Small Business's! We the People of this country have a huge dilemma on our hands.
How do we come together, both conservatives and liberals, ignore the Wedge Issues, and find away to recruit and finance with our own money Congress men and women who are willing to go to Congress and pass legislation to punish businesses who hire, lure, and exploit illegal workers!!!!
The current incumbent Congress on both sides of the isle is unwilling to levy heavy fines, stiff prison sentences on Corporations and Sm. Busn. who hire Illegal Aliens!
Dry up the jobs and the illegals will stop risking life and limb to come to this country b/c there's no jobs!
Our Congress, small busn's and Corporations have rolled the dice and are betting that "We The People" are gullible, mis-informed, divided and conquered to the point to where they believe avg voter is too ignorant to bring the Illegal worker dilemma to an end with our VOTE!!
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There you go making sense again. I agree with almost everything.......
BUT,
A) are we not sending more and more jobs to Mexico because the labor is cheap and the laws are easier on pollution ? Arn't US companies building more factories and plants in Mexico than in the US ? ( I'm asking )
B ) As long as someone is willing to work cheaper than our welfare system, there seems to be no reason for many Americans to take a job. As long as jobs are cheap, so are the products. If we remove the jobs, how do we produce products as cheaply as China and India.
I pay high school kids $40 to cut my grass and trim etc ( large lot ). I could hire Mexicans to do is for half the price and I wouldn't have to remind them to do it correctly. I keep the high school kids because I think I'm doing the correct thing and at the same time trying to teach them some work ethic.
Before Katrina, I had no idea people would actually WORK for low wages.
I agree 100% with you on conservatives and liberals having to come togeather. I feel I''m somewhere in the 75% / 25% range and willing to do a give and take on many issues. Can we start a new party for all of us who fall somewhere middle of the road and just call it a common sense party ?
Who ( from either party ) do you feel would represent the "Common Sense" party ?
The logo could be an Uncle Sam figure with a chair and a whip (as an animal trainer) with both elephants and donkeys standing on their hind legs and saluting.......................
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