I,ve been paying attention to this invasion of America for along time now.Back in the early 80's i lived in Texas after being in the Navy for 4 years.I wasn't from Texas,i went there because there was work there at the time,and none back in Illinois{Chicago area} where i grew up.I got a construction job,having had done some building before joining the service.
I did alright for the first couple of years,but then wages started dropping,because everyone started hiring the illegals that started showing up,and were willing to work for much lower wages.

Not willing to work for nothing,i packed up and moved back to Illinois,the job market still wasn't great,but i was determined,and hard working,and after a time found a good paying factory job.This was my first union job,and i was happy with my situation.After 15 years on third shift,and no chance of getting on first shift in the near future,I was ready for a change.

My wife's brothers were both working for Union construction company's in and around the Chicago area,and since the housing market was booming,it was easy for me to get on with my prior knowledge in the trade.By making this move,i increased my pay by $15.00 an hour,and was working days.This all happened seven years ago.

Today I am layed off from work,the building around here has slowed,thanks in large part to the greedy lenders{i.e. the banks,and other loan company's}and all of the ARM,and sub- prime loans they have handed out to people who had no business buying homes they couldn't afford{I know,American dream BLA BLA BLA...}and are now losing them to foreclosure.Compound all the foreclosure's with all the speck houses that the greedy home builders built with no buyer in site{5000 in the Chicago area alone...}and you can see way I'm not working.

I can accept my fate as far as the market goes, but what I'm having trouble with is that the day i was driving away from work for the last time,there they were...Illegals putting siding on the houses,and putting shingles on the roofs,Illigals putting up dry wall in side the homes,and painting inside and out of the homes,and yes two Mexicans who worked for my company{for lower pay...}staying on the job while i was being sent home.

So the next time someone tries to tell you they are only doing the jobs no one else want,remember this,because there are hundreds of men just like myself born and raised in this country,setting at home worrying about how they are going to support there families,while hundreds of illegals are working, and using W.I.C.K and free medical,and any other government programs they can get on{which i don't qualify for...}not only robbing us of our jobs,but bankrupting this country as well.

Shaman13, welcome to AWE. Can't say that we are always going to agree, but with this, you are right on point. My husband was in construction, and the same happened to him. I really don't know when people are going to wake up to the fact that we are indeed being invaded, even if it isn't an armed one. Funny, being taking over without a shot being fired.

Shaman13: AMEN This is what I've been trying to convey on every thread that states illegals are "only doing the jobs nobody else will do." Illegal workers have been nothing but a way for coperate America to rape not only American citizens, but illegal aliens as well (not paid enough to afford necessities, hence draining our social programs).

I understand the way Big Business does things,and admit that it's wrong.But if the Illegals weren't here in the first place,it wouldn't even be an issue...

You are right again...You have chosen to start a thread in an arguement forum, where you may not be able to find anyone with which to fight...Sorry 'bout that.

Shaman, I think it goes deeper than that. Illegals are here because people will hire them for less and make more money for themselves. Greed is the reason.

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I don't believe the Illegals are here because of that at all, they are here because we do not have a secure border,Because we have idiotic laws,and the laws we do have are not being enforced.Our law makers spend all of they're time creating new laws that won't be enforced,instead of paying attention to the problems that the old laws have caused.Do you really think this would even be a problem if we had a secure border,and enforced our immigration laws?

Don't know if its an argument, but I have a little different take on this.
First of all, one of the first things I said about myself in my introduction to the forum was that I believed illegal meant just that. I was hammerd in another forum by many so-called republican friends when, after GWBs' do nothing speech on immigration last May, I declared then and there that the GOP had just lost the mid-terms to come and the WH in 08.
So I am no friend of illegals.
But I also think some of the tactics used to smear all Mexicans under the "will work for less" rhetoric is misleading and, in some cases, downright lies.
After "retiring" from my first career in business, I was an owner/operator with a major van lines. Moving furniture. I hired casual labor in many areas of the country.
This was known by the people that do it as hard work. But it also paid fairly well. Casual labor was paid anywhere from $12-$14/hr. Not gonna make you rich, but a damn sight better than minimum wage.
I honestly don't know if some of the labor I hired in areas like Phoenix, San Diego, San Antonio,etc. was illegal or not. I did what I was told I had to do to comply with labor and tax laws per my CPA.
the point is, I got so that I was relieved to see mexicans working for me. I paid them the very same thing I paid the whites or blacks. For the most part, they did a very good job. They didn't whine about the heat or the cold. They didn't try to stretch a jobs hours out. Many times, they would have 2, 3 or even more jobs the same day.
I also had the occasion to speak to a GC in the Goodyear, AZ area. He was a huge good ole boy from Alabama sent to Goodyear for a contract there.
I noticed his whole crew was mexican and asked about it. He kind of smiled and told me the story.
The contractors had originally advertised in the mainstram papers there for general laborers at $9.50/hr. They got absolutely ZERO response.
Somebody suggested they advertise in a local spanish language paper...they got hundreds of responses.
The GC told me he had only 1 out of 9 guys that could speak or understand english so had to rely on him. Bottom line, this red-neck kid from Alabama said if he could hire mexicans at every job, he would. They worked hard, showed up on time, he literally had to FORCE them to take breaks or lunch.
So in that case, it really was a case of doing the jobs americans didn't want.
Illegal immigration is a big problem in the country. But to imply Mexicans only work for lower pay or that they don't work in many jobs Americans think they are too good for, is simply bunk.
Thats just my opinion of course.

you weren't even alive when the REAL invasion started taking place.

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