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Old 02-20-2007, 12:54 AM
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fuck mexicans, it aint their homeland no more...build a huge wall, deport ALL illegals..this pisses me off..
America is a MELTING POT coldy. The whole reason people come to America to make a living and to help society is because America allows people from every race and religion to come together.

This isn't Saudi Arabia, man, this is AMERICA!
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Old 02-20-2007, 01:44 AM
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Literally they are correct in their assumption that the land they live on now was once theirs. Historically this statement is very much true.
No. It is completely incorrect.

The Mayans/Aztecs {or whatever they pretend to be} were never occupying the lands which currently constitute the Southwest US.

Those lands would belong to the Apache. The Pima. The Hope. Various California tribes etc.

Basically the Mex argument is that they {the Spanish Euros} stole it first.

Hogwash.

Besides. If Mexico wants it back let them try to take it!
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Old 02-20-2007, 01:57 AM
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America is a MELTING POT coldy. The whole reason people come to America to make a living and to help society is because America allows people from every race and religion to come together.

This isn't Saudi Arabia, man, this is AMERICA!
No, I don't agree. Too many people sub-divide themselves along ethnic and religious lines. They identify themselves as Muslim-Americans, African-Americans (silly), etc. Very few among us describe ourselves as Americans.
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OR, I recommend that we do away with hyphenated Americans.
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Old 02-20-2007, 10:21 AM
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No, I don't agree. Too many people sub-divide themselves along ethnic and religious lines. They identify themselves as Muslim-Americans, African-Americans (silly), etc. Very few among us describe ourselves as Americans.

I know exactly what you mean. I am a Druid-Etuscan-Celtic American
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Old 02-20-2007, 12:00 PM
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No, I don't agree. Too many people sub-divide themselves along ethnic and religious lines. They identify themselves as Muslim-Americans, African-Americans (silly), etc. Very few among us describe ourselves as Americans.
It doesn't matter what they call themselves; It's who they are. To quote Shakespeare:

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"That which we call a rose by any other name... would smell as sweet."
I know, it's different, but not really....If the people speak the language and adapt to American culture, I don't see why they shouldn't be called Americans.
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Old 02-20-2007, 12:14 PM
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"Tell me hes just sending $ home to his poor family."

>>>I know for a fact he is. And I hope you and your family are not dependent on picking potatos. Or canteloupes in Yuma. It gets frigging hot.
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Old 02-20-2007, 05:33 PM
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Regardless of what he is doing with the money, he is here illegally.
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Old 02-20-2007, 11:24 PM
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I never said there weren't people that DO do send money home...I was making a point that the majority of border jumpers are here to cause trouble, and that is a fact, end of story.

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"Tell me hes just sending $ home to his poor family."

>>>I know for a fact he is. And I hope you and your family are not dependent on picking potatos. Or canteloupes in Yuma. It gets frigging hot.
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Old 02-21-2007, 12:57 PM
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"the majority of border jumpers are here to cause trouble, and that is a fact"

>>>I wish it was a fact because it would make life easier. But it ain't.
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