Actually I got it from reading the contract. One of the great advantages of the American Revolution has been, that it led to a discovery of the principles, and laid open the imposition, of government. America with the declaration of independence from a higher authority, was the first time they broke through this collectivist paradigm to create a constitutional republic, where no one is God, therefore, the individual is sovereign and government is by the consent of the governed, which can only be local. Loose the consent of the governed and you, as the representatives of government, are as illegitimate as any common bastard.

The Statue of Liberty was a gift from France to America for winning their Independence, on the anniversary of the Declaration of Independence in 1876. Its title is "Liberty enlightening the world." used as a beckon to the outside world, that the United States is the home of Liberty.

It had nothing to do with welcoming the your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses. The poem, “The New Colossus,” was written by Emma Lazarus a communist Jew, in 1883 and was tacked on years later by a plaque with the text of the poem was mounted in 1903 on the inner wall of the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty.

Oh well in that case, sorry, I didn't realize it was written by a Jew.... and a communist one at that.... well that certainly makes the sentiment worthless doesn't it?

My point is xenophobic intollorence has no place in America. We have always welcomed EVERYONE.

I like that you're well informed, or at least able to do comprehensive research on a topic, that's a rare thing here. I also think we have some common ground in our views of the founding documents. But honestly, I don't care that we have anouther 11 million people in the US, and I think it's ridiculous to think that they are going to annex a portion of the US to Mexico. It's alarmist. I am constantly harping on the value of being vigilant.... but one should stop at paranoia.

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Great posts Jenifer Johnson, are you related to the Rob Johnson on this site?

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you liberals make me sick to my stomach.

OkhamsRazor,

It is clearly an issue of legal versus illegal.

I see the illegal aliens as the symptom not the problem. The problem is the illegality of the government and its willingness to violate the constitution and our sovereignty. When a government representative that acts outside the purview of the Constitution (contract), they become as illegitimate, as any common bastard. When the contract is violated, it violates one's individual rights and is a crime against humanity.

jimmyjude, I doubt it, Johnson is a name like Smith or Jones.

not releated that I know of, other then the fact we are both brave enough to use our real names.

Jimmyjude, how are you?

Jenifer, good posting.

Is there an age limit to allowing persons to become citizens of the US, I really don't know the answer and figured someone here might know that. In other words do we allow a 64 year old immigrant to become a citizen with full benefits when he/she turns 65 thus putting more strain on our already failing social security benefits when they may only work for a year or so? I was just thinking, hmmm, no wonder it won't be around when I retire and why should hard working americans that have paid into social security all of their working lives be given less money due to this type of strain on the system.

There doesn't seem to be an age limit for immigration. But there is a limit to the number of relatives you can bring with you. Check it out.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigra...ypes_1306.html

There also doesn't appear to be an age limit for naturalization.

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/services/natz/general.htm

I don't know if or how soon they qualify for public assistance. I'll try to look into it if I have time. But if you beat me to it, that would be cool too.

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Actually Jen, I agree with you whole heartedly on the constitution comments, but this government has been in violation of those principles for almost a hundred years. I'm not sure I'm willing to go as far as to say it's a crime against humanity, IMO it lessens the truly horrific things that happen in the world that are crimes against humanity (Holocaust, genocide, that kind of thing).

But the constitutionality of our current government is a thread all unto itself.

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I'll search for the info tomorrow, going to bed now, enjoyed my day here. Couldn't find a smiley with a yawn. lol.