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05-09-2008, 11:42 AM
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Suspected illegal immigrant charged with rape
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05-09-2008, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by oceanbreeze
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Thats why u really are a loser OB, you throw a story out there and are too lazy to even add your own opinion but you expect people to read your bs. I'm not reading it but it sounds like a crock of shit to me.
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05-09-2008, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Carson
Thats why u really are a loser OB, you throw a story out there and are too lazy to even add your own opinion but you expect people to read your bs. I'm not reading it but it sounds like a crock of shit to me.
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An illegal immigrant raped a 10 year old Idaho girl and she gave birth.
A 37 year old man raped a 10 year old girl and she gave birth.
How do we charge an illegal immigrant for rape or child support?
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05-09-2008, 12:00 PM
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I have a good story about Illegals!
Recently in my area two illegals shot a third and fled back to mexico!
Lets keep this trend going.
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05-09-2008, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by oceanbreeze
An illegal immigrant raped a 10 year old Idaho girl and she gave birth. So they weren't aware of it for 9 months?
A 37 year old man raped a 10 year old girl and she gave birth. this has nothing to do with it, why did you post it?How do we charge an illegal immigrant for rape or child support?
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You mean for the rape, who cares about the child support?
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05-09-2008, 12:22 PM
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37-year-old man is charged with raping a 10-year-old girl who gave birth last month in Idaho.
"St. Anthony Police said they were notified of the young girl's pregnancy by medical personnel after she went in for treatment at a doctor's office," KIFI-TV reports on its website.
One day later, the ABC affiliate says the young mother delivered a 6-pound girl at Madison Memorial Hospital in Rexburg, Idaho.
KIDK-TV says Guadalupe Gutierrez-Juarez, a suspected illegal immigrant, is being held at the Fremont County Jail. He's due in court next week to face rape charges.
"I wouldn't have believed a 10-year-old could conceive in the first place," Fremont County Sheriff Ralph Davis tells the Associated Press.
The CBS affiliate has more on the local reaction.
Update at 2:54 p.m. ET: Thanks to reader Aaron T. for sending us a copy of the Post Register story, which says investigators are still trying to determine the suspect's immigration status.
"A hospital spokesman would not discuss the condition of the girl or the baby and would not say if either was still in the hospital," the paper says.
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05-09-2008, 12:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oceanbreeze
37-year-old man is charged with raping a 10-year-old girl who gave birth last month in Idaho.
"St. Anthony Police said they were notified of the young girl's pregnancy by medical personnel after she went in for treatment at a doctor's office," KIFI-TV reports on its website.
One day later, the ABC affiliate says the young mother delivered a 6-pound girl at Madison Memorial Hospital in Rexburg, Idaho.
KIDK-TV says Guadalupe Gutierrez-Juarez, a suspected illegal immigrant, is being held at the Fremont County Jail. He's due in court next week to face rape charges.
"I wouldn't have believed a 10-year-old could conceive in the first place," Fremont County Sheriff Ralph Davis tells the Associated Press.
The CBS affiliate has more on the local reaction.
Update at 2:54 p.m. ET: Thanks to reader Aaron T. for sending us a copy of the Post Register story, which says investigators are still trying to determine the suspect's immigration status.
"A hospital spokesman would not discuss the condition of the girl or the baby and would not say if either was still in the hospital," the paper says.
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ok let me know when you have an opinion on the whole thing
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05-09-2008, 12:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carson
ok let me know when you have an opinion on the whole thing
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My opinion is if we wouldn't have allowed the illegal immigration problem to esculate to the proportions that they are now, we wouldn't have problems like this occurring. Although, Idaho doesn't have a sanctuary city, why was he there, illegally?
Last updated: 3-17-08
Sanctuary State/City
Alaska
Anchorage (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Fairbanks (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service, also see dispute resolution note below)
Arizona
Chandler, AZ (Added 5/30/07, Congressional Research Service Report, 2006 )
Phoenix, AZ
California
Bell Gardens, CA
City of Industry, CA
City of Commerce, CA
Cypress, CA
Davis CA
Downey, CA
Fresno, CA (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Lakewood, CA
Los Angeles, CA (Congressional Research Service)
Long Beach, CA
Lynwood, CA
Maywood, CA
Montebello, CA
National City, CA
Norwalk, CA
Oakland, CA (Added 8-27-07. Source: 4/25/07 story by KCBS 740 AM. Link here.)
Paramount, CA
Pico Rivera, CA
So. Gate, CA
San Bernardino, Ca. (Added 6/7/07, reader submitted)
San Diego, CA (Congressional Research Service)
Santa Cruz, CA (Added 5/30/07, documented by KSBW news)
San Francisco, CA (Congressional Research Service)
San Jose, CA (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Sonoma County, CA (Congressional Research Service)
Tucson, CA (Added 11-12-07, Source: 11-11-07 story by Brady McCombs, Arizona Daily Star. See note below.)
Vernon, CA
Watsonville, CA (Added 5/30/07, documented by KSBW news)
Wilmington, CA
Colorado
Aurora, CO
Commerce City, CO
Denver, CO (Congressional Research Service)
Durango, CO (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Federal Heights, CO
Fort Collins, CO
Lafayette, CO (Added 6/3/07, documented by reader)
Thornton, CO
Westminster, CO
Connecticut
New Haven, CT (Added 6/4/07. TV News 8: City council votes 25-1 to issue ID cards to illegal aliens)
Florida
DeLeon Springs, FL
Deltona, Fl
Miami, FL
Georgia
Dalton, GA (Added 5/30/07. 6/18/07 Listing disputed as inaccurate by the City of Dalton, GA. Currently being researched. )
Illinois
Chicago, IL (Congressional Research Service)
Cicero, IL (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Evanston, IL (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Massachusetts
Cambridge, Mass. (Source: Boston Globe. First passed resolution in 1985)
Chelsea, Mass. (Added: 8-14-07 Source: Chelsea government website with text of sanctuary policy.)
Orleans, Mass. (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Springfield (Disputed)
Maine
Portland (Added 5/31/07 Note: Maine resident reported that Portland city council passed sanctuary legislation)
State of Maine (Added 5/31/07 Note: Governor of Maine initiated de facto protections for illegals by Executive Order in 2004)*
Maryland
Baltimore, MD (Congressional Research Service)
Gaithersburg, MD
Mt. Rainier, MD (Added 1-20-08, Source: The Washington D.C. Examiner, 1-19-08)
Takoma Park, MD (Reported that City ordinance passed some 20 years ago; Congressional Research Service)
Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Detroit, MI (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Minnesota
Minneapolis, MN (Congressional Research Service)
St. Paul, MN
Worthington, MN (Added 5-30-07 Note: This is where a Swift plant was raided by ICE in December, 2006)
Nevada
Reno (Added 5-31-07; 2-18-08 Disputed. City claims it is not a sanctuary city; OJJPAC has requested a copy of city policies.)
New Jersey
Camden, NJ
Fort Lee, NJ
Hightstown, NJ (Added 5-30-07)
Jersey City, NJ
Newark, NJ (Added 6-3-07)
North Bergen, NJ
Trenton, NJ
Union City, NJ
West New York, NJ
New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service; 8-14-07 KOB-TV 4 Eyewitness News report)
Rio Ariba County, NM (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Santa Fe, NM (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
New York
Bay Shore, NY
Brentwood, NY
Central Islip, NY
Farmingville, NY
New York City, NY
Riverhead, NY
Shirly/Mastic, NY
Spring Valley Village, NY (Added 7-25-07)
Uniondale, NY
Westbury, NY
North Carolina
Carrboro, NC (Added 11-12-07 Source: Towns differ on illegal aliens by Patrick Winn, The News & Observer)
Chapel Hill, NC (Added 11-12-07 Source: Towns differ on illegal aliens by Patrick Winn, The News & Observer)
Charlotte, NC
Durham, NC (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Raleigh
Winston-Salem
Ohio
Columbus, OH (7/5/07 Source: 5/10/07 Columbus Dispatch article stating illegal aliens in misdemeanor cases are not reported to ICE)
Painesville, OH (7-19-07 Source: 7-18-07 Cleveland Scene article) [8-9-07 Disputed by Painesville's City Manager, under review. 11-11-07 OJJPAC Note: City appears to be reassessing its policies. It is OJJPAC's hope that Painesville can be removed from the list soon.
Oklahoma
Oklahoma City (de facto)
Tulsa (6-3-07 Note: Tulsa city council is discussing changing its sanctuary policy.)
Oregon
State of Oregon * (8-9-07 Congressional Research Service) *(See note below)
Ashland, OR (8-9-07 Congressional Research Service)
Gaston, OR (8-9-07 Congressional Research Service)
Marion County, OR (8-9-07 Congressional Research Service)
Portland, OR
Texas
Austin, TX (Congressional Research Service)
Baytown, TX (6-13-07 Local reader observation)
Brownsville, TX
Channelview, TX (6-13-07 Local reader observation)
Denton, TX
Dallas, TX
El Cenizo, TX (6-13-07 Congressional Research Service)
Ft.Worth, TX
Houston, TX (Congressional Research Service)
Katy, TX (Congressional Research Service)
Laredo, TX
Mcallen, TX
Port Arthur, TX (6-13-07 Reader/resident observation)
Utah
Provo, UT
Salt Lake City, UT
Virginia
Fairfax County, VA
Virginia Beach, VA (Added 6/3/07)
Washington
Seattle, WA (Added 5/30/07; Congressional Research Service)
Wisconsin
Madison, WI (Congressional Research Service)
Wyoming
Jackson Hole, WY
Washington, D.C.
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05-09-2008, 12:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oceanbreeze
My opinion is if we wouldn't have allowed the illegal immigration problem to esculate to the proportions that they are now, we wouldn't have problems like this occurring. true but thats why they say you have 20 20 hindsight Although, Idaho doesn't have a sanctuary city, why was he there, illegally? He raped a little kid who gives a fuck why he was there?
Last updated: 3-17-08
Sanctuary State/City
Alaska
Anchorage (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Fairbanks (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service, also see dispute resolution note below)
Arizona
Chandler, AZ (Added 5/30/07, Congressional Research Service Report, 2006 )
Phoenix, AZ
California
Bell Gardens, CA
City of Industry, CA
City of Commerce, CA
Cypress, CA
Davis CA
Downey, CA
Fresno, CA (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Lakewood, CA
Los Angeles, CA (Congressional Research Service)
Long Beach, CA
Lynwood, CA
Maywood, CA
Montebello, CA
National City, CA
Norwalk, CA
Oakland, CA (Added 8-27-07. Source: 4/25/07 story by KCBS 740 AM. Link here.)
Paramount, CA
Pico Rivera, CA
So. Gate, CA
San Bernardino, Ca. (Added 6/7/07, reader submitted)
San Diego, CA (Congressional Research Service)
Santa Cruz, CA (Added 5/30/07, documented by KSBW news)
San Francisco, CA (Congressional Research Service)
San Jose, CA (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Sonoma County, CA (Congressional Research Service)
Tucson, CA (Added 11-12-07, Source: 11-11-07 story by Brady McCombs, Arizona Daily Star. See note below.)
Vernon, CA
Watsonville, CA (Added 5/30/07, documented by KSBW news)
Wilmington, CA
Colorado
Aurora, CO
Commerce City, CO
Denver, CO (Congressional Research Service)
Durango, CO (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Federal Heights, CO
Fort Collins, CO
Lafayette, CO (Added 6/3/07, documented by reader)
Thornton, CO
Westminster, CO
Connecticut
New Haven, CT (Added 6/4/07. TV News 8: City council votes 25-1 to issue ID cards to illegal aliens)
Florida
DeLeon Springs, FL
Deltona, Fl
Miami, FL
Georgia
Dalton, GA (Added 5/30/07. 6/18/07 Listing disputed as inaccurate by the City of Dalton, GA. Currently being researched. )
Illinois
Chicago, IL (Congressional Research Service)
Cicero, IL (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Evanston, IL (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Massachusetts
Cambridge, Mass. (Source: Boston Globe. First passed resolution in 1985)
Chelsea, Mass. (Added: 8-14-07 Source: Chelsea government website with text of sanctuary policy.)
Orleans, Mass. (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Springfield (Disputed)
Maine
Portland (Added 5/31/07 Note: Maine resident reported that Portland city council passed sanctuary legislation)
State of Maine (Added 5/31/07 Note: Governor of Maine initiated de facto protections for illegals by Executive Order in 2004)*
Maryland
Baltimore, MD (Congressional Research Service)
Gaithersburg, MD
Mt. Rainier, MD (Added 1-20-08, Source: The Washington D.C. Examiner, 1-19-08)
Takoma Park, MD (Reported that City ordinance passed some 20 years ago; Congressional Research Service)
Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Detroit, MI (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Minnesota
Minneapolis, MN (Congressional Research Service)
St. Paul, MN
Worthington, MN (Added 5-30-07 Note: This is where a Swift plant was raided by ICE in December, 2006)
Nevada
Reno (Added 5-31-07; 2-18-08 Disputed. City claims it is not a sanctuary city; OJJPAC has requested a copy of city policies.)
New Jersey
Camden, NJ
Fort Lee, NJ
Hightstown, NJ (Added 5-30-07)
Jersey City, NJ
Newark, NJ (Added 6-3-07)
North Bergen, NJ
Trenton, NJ
Union City, NJ
West New York, NJ
New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service; 8-14-07 KOB-TV 4 Eyewitness News report)
Rio Ariba County, NM (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Santa Fe, NM (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
New York
Bay Shore, NY
Brentwood, NY
Central Islip, NY
Farmingville, NY
New York City, NY
Riverhead, NY
Shirly/Mastic, NY
Spring Valley Village, NY (Added 7-25-07)
Uniondale, NY
Westbury, NY
North Carolina
Carrboro, NC (Added 11-12-07 Source: Towns differ on illegal aliens by Patrick Winn, The News & Observer)
Chapel Hill, NC (Added 11-12-07 Source: Towns differ on illegal aliens by Patrick Winn, The News & Observer)
Charlotte, NC
Durham, NC (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
Raleigh
Winston-Salem
Ohio
Columbus, OH (7/5/07 Source: 5/10/07 Columbus Dispatch article stating illegal aliens in misdemeanor cases are not reported to ICE)
Painesville, OH (7-19-07 Source: 7-18-07 Cleveland Scene article) [8-9-07 Disputed by Painesville's City Manager, under review. 11-11-07 OJJPAC Note: City appears to be reassessing its policies. It is OJJPAC's hope that Painesville can be removed from the list soon.
Oklahoma
Oklahoma City (de facto)
Tulsa (6-3-07 Note: Tulsa city council is discussing changing its sanctuary policy.)
Oregon
State of Oregon * (8-9-07 Congressional Research Service) *(See note below)
Ashland, OR (8-9-07 Congressional Research Service)
Gaston, OR (8-9-07 Congressional Research Service)
Marion County, OR (8-9-07 Congressional Research Service)
Portland, OR
Texas
Austin, TX (Congressional Research Service)
Baytown, TX (6-13-07 Local reader observation)
Brownsville, TX
Channelview, TX (6-13-07 Local reader observation)
Denton, TX
Dallas, TX
El Cenizo, TX (6-13-07 Congressional Research Service)
Ft.Worth, TX
Houston, TX (Congressional Research Service)
Katy, TX (Congressional Research Service)
Laredo, TX
Mcallen, TX
Port Arthur, TX (6-13-07 Reader/resident observation)
Utah
Provo, UT
Salt Lake City, UT
Virginia
Fairfax County, VA
Virginia Beach, VA (Added 6/3/07)
Washington
Seattle, WA (Added 5/30/07; Congressional Research Service)
Wisconsin
Madison, WI (Congressional Research Service)
Wyoming
Jackson Hole, WY
Washington, D.C.
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Do you gotta point in this whole mess or are you just being generally annoying again?
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05-09-2008, 12:40 PM
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Quote:
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Do you gotta point in this whole mess or are you just being generally annoying again?
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Listen chucklenuts, you answered my post in red, quit being annoying.
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