I hear it alot, I read it alot, that if we were to secure our southern border, the criminals that are here already should be allowed to stay. what is the thinking behind that? What is the thinking behind anchor babies? Break in and have a kid on our dollar and you can stay? What?

Is it because you were told it would be hard or impossible to deport all of them?

I just don't get, but I'll listen.

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I believe the reason is because of the difficulty in removing them all from the nation. The funds for removing them could be better used to secure the border.

However, the arguement I've heard is that they arn't just allowed to stay. They must return home, pay a $5000 fee, and take all of the necessary steps in becoming a citizen. All that is changed is they are pushed to the front of the list.

The pro illegal open border lobby, funded by the employers of illegals, came up with the slogan that since you can't deport 12 to 20 million illegal aliens, then you have to give them amnesty. The majority of people, however, don't think that uninvited illegal Mexican invaders deserve amnesty. Since the fed gov is dysfuncional on illegal immigration, the new trend is to pass, at the states level, tough on illegals/tough on the employers of illegals laws, which dries up the jobs magnet that draws the illegals here in the first place. With no jobs waiting illegals will stop coming and the ones here, with no jobs either, will be forced to go back to where they came from. This is called SELF DEPORTATION. There is very little cost to American taxpayers. Arizona and Oklahoma passed such laws, which have become the standard for other states, which require MANDATORY e-verification of an employees legal status, removes the business license of repeat offender employers of illegals, and requires PROOF of legality to receive any social services. These laws resulted in a MASS EXODUS of illegals from those states. The current trend,in fighting illegal immigration, is to try to get these tough on illegals/tough on the employers of illegals laws passed in every state.

To do anything about the anchor baby abuse would require changing the interpretation of the 14th amendment. This would have to be done at the fed level, and, of course, the fed gov, as stated, is dysfunctional. There are 300,000 anchor babies born each year to illegals. These anchor babies immediately qualify for every welfare benefit afforded citizens, of which they are. The benefits from a couple of anchor babies can supplement an illegal family quite nicely.

I hope I read the tone of your reply correctly. If so, I and a lot of other citizens agree with you. We “don't think that uninvited illegal Mexican invaders deserve amnesty.”

OK here’s what I see, there are problems with state by state solutions.

1. If your state passes and enforces laws that make it more desirable to self deport than stay these criminal aliens don’t necessarily go back home they just move to a more desirable state.
2. You still end up paying for their “SOCIAL IMPACT” though federal taxes.
3. Anchor babies, 1 anchor baby + 2 parents x 300,000 a year = Millions.

So if we as American citizens want to start to get a handle on this problem we can.

1. Push for laws like Arizona and Oklahoma in our own states. As more states pass these laws there will be less states willing to “take in Criminal aliens” and the “SOCIAL IMPACT” in those states will increase creating a snowball effect to pass similar laws.
2. We must put pressure on ALL our elected officials to do something. From the POA in the neighborhood to the Whitehouse write, go to press conferences, email, BE THE SQUEEKY WHEEL! Do it monthly, weekly, DAILY! Be vocal, the criminal aliens a vocal about demanding things.
3. Now comes the hard and ugly part. Please remember this situation arose out of a cynical and willful manipulation of our laws by criminals. Every parent applying for any government aid on a child will be vetted. Criminal aliens will be deported and the child as is their right as an American citizen can stay under the care of child services. Or the parents can take the child back with them, their choice. Some will say this is unfair and cruel, remember most children under child services are there because of poor choices made by their parents. I believe it is common to remove children from households where there is criminal activity.

Something else to think about, the international language of business is English. Why shouldn’t the language of the U.S. be English? Boycott business whose employees don’t speak English. Tell the owner why.

*Push for English only election ballots.*

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Secure the borders and fine anyone knowingly hires and illegal.

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Good analysis. We need to keep pushing for tough on illegals/tough on the employers of illegals laws at the states level for every state. I see this trend toward passing these laws to slowly pick up speed and then close fast. When all the states see that these laws are going to be eventually passed in all of the states, the last thing a state will want is to be the last sanctuary state. I think that children born in the US to illegal aliens shouldn't get automatic citizenship, and as such have an "asterisk" by their name, and when their illegal parents are deported they should go with them. I think that both parents need to be legal before automatic citizenship is granted. Make English the official language.

It's necessary that all states pass MANDATORY e-verification of the legal status of an employee so that it becomes impossible for an employer to hire an illegal and not know that they are illegal. Then the next step is to fine or penalize the repeat offender employers of illegals, to the extent that the fine is much more than a cost of doing business fine, such as the loss of their business license.

how about this:

let the illegal immigrants continue to stay.
employers can still legally pay them shitty wages
- keeping costs down and pass the savings on to you so you shove even more fatburgers in your crawhole -
and they can continue to work the shitty jobs you yourself would not touch with a 10-ft pole.

Tell ya what. You can keep as many as you can cram into your double wide. All the other have to go.

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