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04-16-2008, 05:19 PM
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So Who Is REALLY Responsible For The Illegal Mexican Invasion?
We all know that the fed gov doesn't work for American citizens anymore regarding illegal immigration. But I lay the responsibility for both that and the illegal Mexican invasion where it belongs, on the employers of illegals. The employers of illegals are the ones providing the jobs magnet that draws the illegals here in the first place. Apparently employing illegals is so lucrative that the employers of illegals have all the money they need to buy all of the politicians, including Presidents, they need to keep the borders open and the cheap labor coming in. They also have been able to afford legions of activist/lobbyists who are paid to try and convince America that the American economy can't get along without illegal labor. In reality, it's just the employers of illegal's pocketbooks taking a hit that they're worried about. Another important function of these activists is to deflect attention away from what these employers of illegals are actually doing. They've earned their money because you never hear of anyone wanting to tar and feather the bastard employers of illegals.
The ONLY thing that is going to effectively reverse the illegal Mexican invasion is to remove the jobs magnet that brings the illegals here in the first place. It's a no brainer. Everyone knows that the fed gov is dysfunctional because of all the paid for lobbyists and bought off politicians. At the states level, however, Arizona and Oklahoma passed tough on illegals laws that forced MANDATORY e-verification of an employees legal status on businesses, and REMOVES the business licenses of repeat offender employers of illegals, which effectively dried up the jobs magnet for most of these illegals, which in turn resulted in a mass self deportation of many of the illegals. All at little expense to American taxpayers.
It makes it a little easier to fight the illegal Mexican invasion when you realize who is really behind it and fully responsible for it, the employers of illegals
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04-16-2008, 05:24 PM
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So Who Is REALLY Responsible For The Illegal Mexican Invasion?
This just a wild guess but,,,Mexicans would be my first clue.  That, and as you say, the Federal Government not doing their Duty in protecting our Border.
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04-16-2008, 06:17 PM
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So Who Is REALLY Responsible For The Illegal Mexican Invasion?
This just a wild guess but,,,Mexicans would be my first clue.  That, and as you say, the Federal Government not doing their Duty in protecting our Border.
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Can't bring yourself to lay the blame on the employers of illegals who provide the jobs magnet and buy off the politicians, can you? So, are YOU an employer of illegals yourself, or have you been brainwashed by a hired activist, or are you a hired activist/brainwasher yourself?
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04-16-2008, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Clay
Can't bring yourself to lay the blame on the employers of illegals who provide the jobs magnet and buy off the politicians, can you? So, are YOU an employer of illegals yourself, or have you been brainwashed by a hired activist, or are you a hired activist/brainwasher yourself?
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You don't really think there's any "Lost Love" between me and those that hire illegals?
I propose a minefield along the Border...  That, and a mandatory Jail Sentence for all that "hire" illegals.
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04-16-2008, 06:44 PM
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You don't really think there's any "Lost Love" between me and those that hire illegals?
I propose a minefield along the Border...  That, and a mandatory Jail Sentence for all that "hire" illegals.
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As much as I'd like to see some CEOs in jail, it's not going to happen. Some "personnel manager" might see some jail time though. Loss of business license is just as, or even more, effective and would be a lot easier to bring about.
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04-16-2008, 06:47 PM
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You gonna go-on about a mine-field again, Bushbot?
Why call yerself Realist?
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04-16-2008, 06:48 PM
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I mean, you Bushbots have been Wrong about Everything for Seven Years!
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04-16-2008, 07:00 PM
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As much as I'd like to see some CEOs in jail, it's not going to happen. Some "personnel manager" might see some jail time though. Loss of business license is just as, or even more, effective and would be a lot easier to bring about.
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My advice is: Never allow yourself to "Break the Law" for a C.E.O...  You leave yourself wide open.
Take the Federal Programs available to "hide", and give Evidence in Hanging the Bastards making money off of all of us.
And then if you're smart, ditch from the Feds. 
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04-17-2008, 10:07 AM
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Clay,
We all know that the fed gov doesn't work for American citizens anymore regarding illegal immigration. But I lay the responsibility for both that and the illegal Mexican invasion where it belongs, on the employers of illegals. The employers of illegals are the ones providing the jobs magnet that draws the illegals here in the first place
Shall we start with the employer that employs the most illegals in the nation...the United States Govt?
The average CEO in America makes about $150,000 a year and owns a small middle-class business.
The US Govt. has revenues of over $2.3 Trillion each year.
Who should be attacked? 
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04-17-2008, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by wow
Clay,
We all know that the fed gov doesn't work for American citizens anymore regarding illegal immigration. But I lay the responsibility for both that and the illegal Mexican invasion where it belongs, on the employers of illegals. The employers of illegals are the ones providing the jobs magnet that draws the illegals here in the first place
Shall we start with the employer that employs the most illegals in the nation...the United States Govt?
The average CEO in America makes about $150,000 a year and owns a small middle-class business.
The US Govt. has revenues of over $2.3 Trillion each year.
Who should be attacked? 
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Is this a trick question? The fed gov is dysfunctional and Washington politicians have been bought off regarding illegal immigration, so I guess we wouldn't attack the fed gov, would we? What I said was that illegal immigration could be stopped at the states level, one state at a time. We wouldn't get anywhere attacking CEOs either. By requiring MANDATORY e-verification of the legal status of every employee an employer of illegals could no longer play dumb about illegals working for the employer of the illegal, because the employer of illegals was required to have have checked on the legal status of every employee. If and employer of illegals is caught with an illegal on the payroll, they would be in deep dodo. Being able to remove or suspend the business license of repeat offender employers of illegals is the most powerful tool to have in your arsenal and is the one thing that employers of illegals would fear the most and would think long and hard as to whether they want to continue hiring illegals. With these laws enacted in every state the jobs magnet for illegals would dry up so fast it would make your head swim. And whether you agree or not drying up the jobs magnet is the ONLY way we are ever going to stop the illegal Mexican invasion.
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