So Who Is REALLY Responsible For The Illegal Mexican Invasion?

Istok · #21 (**permalink**) 05-16-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintMalaclypse

Let's see...if I was an employer of Illegals, and I just lost my business license, what ever would I do?

Establish a new business, corporation, fictional entity, and sell all my assets to my new company. People with money would be back in business before the ink dried on the citations.

The businesses are able to get away with it because A) The Federal and State governments allow the huge influx of illegals, and B) The Federal and State Governments don't do enough to enforce our existing laws.

Now, who put the Governments in power? We, the People.

Illigeal Immigration is a problem for as long as We, the People allow it. Businesses are in it for the money, and if We leave illegals laying around, why would We expect profit-seekers to ignore such a valuable resource?

Business aren't about protecting our country. Why lay the blame at their doorstep? The Government is supposed to protect us, and We are the ones responsible for making sure they do their job.

Instead, we're content if they keep tossing refund checks our way and pave the road to Pure Digital TV for Every American.

He has a point here. If the government stopped the influx of cheap labor business would look to other methods to make a profit or just simply make a little less profit by raising their prices. Here in LA when someone is moving everyone says go to the corner and get a couple Mexicans to move your stuff into the truck. Now if they were not there in the first place you would have to pay a bit more and hire a legitimate moving or labor company. Would you go broke because you paid a bit more for the legitimate, insured company? Hell no, you might do it yourself but you will find a way to do it.
You cannot blame the users of the benefit, that will happen no matter what. Here is a hypothetical. If the government said we will be granting welfare based on the honor system without any verification. How many people that you know will be applying and getting free welfare? You know that if a benefit is there and is unregulated people will abuse it. You may have pride and will not do it but there is a hell of a lot of other people who will. That is why the government has verification before welfare is issued. Same with immigration, the government can allow it but it must be monitored and controlled and you cannot depend on the beneficiaries to do the monitoring.
Now the fact that the government is owned by the beneficiaries through lobby groups is a whole different story.

wow · #22 (**permalink**) 05-16-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Clay

I'd say it's more of your interpretation of figures that is the problem. As with ALL pro illegals you don't know the difference between LEGAL immigrants and illegal aliens, do you? Pro illegals use the term immigrant to refer to both legal and illegal aliens, just to confuse the issue. So one in seven LEGAL workers in the US are legal immigrants? The number of LEGAL foreign born workers has increased from 13 to 21 million over the past decade with Mexico and Latin America accounting for about 40 percent of the increase?

Where does this indicate anything about illegal aliens?

As I said 10 percent of the Mexican population is in the US illegally and about 67 percent of all illegals in this country are from just ONE COUNTRY, MEXICO.

My figures are from the Center for Immigration Studies. I'd post a link by I'm not allowed to yet for some reason.

Well, the terms used are "Immigrants and foreign born workers"
I think the term "illegal" was avoided for public relations purposes.
Sorry for the confusion.

Tileman · #23 (**permalink**) 05-16-2008, 03:52 PM

Oklahoma construction work is littered with illegals! Absolutely littered! However, since passing a couple of very harsh laws to people whom knowingly hire, employ or give residence to are subject to losing absolutely everything was exactly what we needed.

As a landlord I double check a social security number on EVERYONE regardless of race and keep that documentation because if they were illegal the state can now take the whole property if it's rented to an illegal alien.

We are already noticing a HUGE difference in how many construction workers are around. With a slumping housing market this is absolutely fabulous. Providing more work to our legal citizens without being undercut on price by illegals.

Realist1 · #24 (**permalink**) 05-16-2008, 04:13 PM

I see there's been no change from the idiot liberal stance to kiss ass to "illegals" crossing our borders...

With Obama Hussien as their Candidate,,,nothing new then.

Clay · #25 (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Realist1

I see there's been no change from the idiot liberal stance to kiss ass to "illegals" crossing our borders...

With Obama Hussien as their Candidate,,,nothing new then.

Unfortunately McShame is kissing Latino ass too.

rob · #26 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 07:42 AM

The laws will not be enforced untill our elected officals stop treating the illeglas as future voting block.

wow · #27 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 10:10 AM

Why do Labor Unions get a free pass for employing illegals?

sachem · #28 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by wow

Why do Labor Unions get a free pass for employing illegals?

Do many labor unions employ illegals? Do you mean represent illegals employed by other companies/corporations?

Teak · #29 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Tileman

Oklahoma construction work is littered with illegals! Absolutely littered! However, since passing a couple of very harsh laws to people whom knowingly hire, employ or give residence to are subject to losing absolutely everything was exactly what we needed.

As a landlord I double check a social security number on EVERYONE regardless of race and keep that documentation because if they were illegal the state can now take the whole property if it's rented to an illegal alien.

We are already noticing a HUGE difference in how many construction workers are around. With a slumping housing market this is absolutely fabulous. Providing more work to our legal citizens without being undercut on price by illegals.

As a landlord what do you do about legal alien residents? They have no SSN.

As a landlord what are you going to do when sued under the Federal Fair Housing Act, which prohibits you from denying a rental to an individual because of his/her national origin? My lawyers have told me to "find another reason" not to rent to an individual, or get ready to pay, big time.

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"The 1968 act expanded on previous acts and prohibited discrimination concerning the sale, rental, and financing of housing based on race, religion, national origin, sex, (and as amended) handicap and family status."