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04-17-2008, 05:39 PM
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Is this a trick question? The fed gov is dysfunctional and Washington politicians have been bought off regarding illegal immigration, so I guess we wouldn't attack the fed gov, would we? What I said was that illegal immigration could be stopped at the states level, one state at a time. We wouldn't get anywhere attacking CEOs either. By requiring MANDATORY e-verification of the legal status of every employee an employer of illegals could no longer play dumb about illegals working for the employer of the illegal, because the employer of illegals was required to have have checked on the legal status of every employee. If and employer of illegals is caught with an illegal on the payroll, they would be in deep dodo. Being able to remove or suspend the business license of repeat offender employers of illegals is the most powerful tool to have in your arsenal and is the one thing that employers of illegals would fear the most and would think long and hard as to whether they want to continue hiring illegals. With these laws enacted in every state the jobs magnet for illegals would dry up so fast it would make your head swim. And whether you agree or not drying up the jobs magnet is the ONLY way we are ever going to stop the illegal Mexican invasion.
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First of all, Mexicans only make up about 30% of illegals, all Latinos make up about 40%. Immigrants account for one in seven workers in the US and half the growth of the workforce since 1990. As the number of foreign born workers has increased from 13 million to 21 million over the past decade, people from Mexico and Central America accounted for about 40 percent of the increase. Increased immigration explains low wage growth in US
Not even half of the problem has been addressed!
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04-19-2008, 10:59 PM
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First of all, Mexicans only make up about 30% of illegals, all Latinos make up about 40%. Immigrants account for one in seven workers in the US and half the growth of the workforce since 1990. As the number of foreign born workers has increased from 13 million to 21 million over the past decade, people from Mexico and Central America accounted for about 40 percent of the increase. Increased immigration explains low wage growth in US
Not even half of the problem has been addressed!
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You've got your figures wrong. Current estimates from the center of immigration studies put the estimate for the percentage of illegal Mexicans in this country at between 60 and 70 percent. 10 percent of the entire Mexican population is inside the US illegally.
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04-21-2008, 09:43 PM
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Let's see...if I was an employer of Illegals, and I just lost my business license, what ever would I do?
Establish a new business, corporation, fictional entity, and sell all my assets to my new company. People with money would be back in business before the ink dried on the citations.
The businesses are able to get away with it because A) The Federal and State governments allow the huge influx of illegals, and B) The Federal and State Governments don't do enough to enforce our existing laws.
Now, who put the Governments in power? We, the People.
Illigeal Immigration is a problem for as long as We, the People allow it. Businesses are in it for the money, and if We leave illegals laying around, why would We expect profit-seekers to ignore such a valuable resource?
Business aren't about protecting our country. Why lay the blame at their doorstep? The Government is supposed to protect us, and We are the ones responsible for making sure they do their job.
Instead, we're content if they keep tossing refund checks our way and pave the road to Pure Digital TV for Every American.
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04-22-2008, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintMalaclypse
Let's see...if I was an employer of Illegals, and I just lost my business license, what ever would I do?
Establish a new business, corporation, fictional entity, and sell all my assets to my new company. People with money would be back in business before the ink dried on the citations.
The businesses are able to get away with it because A) The Federal and State governments allow the huge influx of illegals, and B) The Federal and State Governments don't do enough to enforce our existing laws.
Now, who put the Governments in power? We, the People.
Illigeal Immigration is a problem for as long as We, the People allow it. Businesses are in it for the money, and if We leave illegals laying around, why would We expect profit-seekers to ignore such a valuable resource?
Business aren't about protecting our country. Why lay the blame at their doorstep? The Government is supposed to protect us, and We are the ones responsible for making sure they do their job.
Instead, we're content if they keep tossing refund checks our way and pave the road to Pure Digital TV for Every American.
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Well, you've made a good point, the average fly by night could just restart up with a new name and maybe that's a loophole that could be closed, but a legitimate business with an established name wouldn't relish losing their so called "good will" that they've supposedly built up with their name.
So, we the "sheeple" put the governments in power, huh? Well, technically we do because we vote our politicians in or out. It's also often hard to single out the truly corrupt politicians to vote them out.
Why lay the blame on businesses when gov fails to protect us? Do you believe that gov just woke up one day and out of the clear blue sky decided on their own to stop effectively enforcing immigration laws? Do You really? Clearly, the only ones profiting from the "so called" cheap labor, which was brought about by the lax enforcement of immigration laws by our gov of bought off politicians, which resulted in the illegal Mexican invasion, are the employers of illegals.
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04-22-2008, 01:18 PM
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You've got your figures wrong. Current estimates from the center of immigration studies put the estimate for the percentage of illegal Mexicans in this country at between 60 and 70 percent. 10 percent of the entire Mexican population is inside the US illegally.
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You mean the Congressional Budget Office has their numbers wrong?
Immigrants account for one in seven workers in the US and half the growth of the workforce since 1990. As the number of foreign born workers has increased from 13 million to 21 million over the past decade, people from Mexico and Central America accounted for about 40 percent of the increase.
That means most illegals come from Canada and Europe.
I'm smelling racism now.
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04-22-2008, 01:53 PM
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About 30 years ago I was watching a local news broadcast about the illegal aliens in the area and how hard the border patrol was "trying" to find and deport them, but wasn't having much "luck"..... I thought...... hmmmmm why not take a dozen buses out to the local swap meet (flea market) on saturday and sunday and fill the busses up? ....and send some more busses to Kmart..... I knew right then that the illegal aliens were here because rich and powerful people wanted them here for an unending source of cheap labor.....
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04-22-2008, 02:11 PM
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About 30 years ago I was watching a local news broadcast about the illegal aliens in the area and how hard the border patrol was "trying" to find and deport them, but wasn't having much "luck"..... I thought...... hmmmmm why not take a dozen buses out to the local swap meet (flea market) on saturday and sunday and fill the busses up? ....and send some more busses to Kmart..... I knew right then that the illegal aliens were here because rich and powerful people wanted them here for an unending source of cheap labor.....
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That's why I left Santa Ana CA. 20 years ago... I got tired of the "Cholos" leaving used rubbers, drug needles, and dead bodies in my front yard. That,,,and spray painting my fence with their Gang Colors.
I don't have that problem now.  I live in the Country. No fences, Cops, or lack of Swamp Land and Quicksand to utilize.
Viva La Revolution! 
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04-22-2008, 08:41 PM
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You mean the Congressional Budget Office has their numbers wrong?
Immigrants account for one in seven workers in the US and half the growth of the workforce since 1990. As the number of foreign born workers has increased from 13 million to 21 million over the past decade, people from Mexico and Central America accounted for about 40 percent of the increase.
That means most illegals come from Canada and Europe.
I'm smelling racism now.
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I'd say it's more of your interpretation of figures that is the problem. As with ALL pro illegals you don't know the difference between LEGAL immigrants and illegal aliens, do you? Pro illegals use the term immigrant to refer to both legal and illegal aliens, just to confuse the issue. So one in seven LEGAL workers in the US are legal immigrants? The number of LEGAL foreign born workers has increased from 13 to 21 million over the past decade with Mexico and Latin America accounting for about 40 percent of the increase?
Where does this indicate anything about illegal aliens?
As I said 10 percent of the Mexican population is in the US illegally and about 67 percent of all illegals in this country are from just ONE COUNTRY, MEXICO.
My figures are from the Center for Immigration Studies. I'd post a link by I'm not allowed to yet for some reason.
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04-22-2008, 09:51 PM
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So Who Is REALLY Responsible For The Illegal Mexican Invasion?
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The beaners coming into our country illegally. If we only shot a few hundred trying to get in no one else would try. Simple. Punish illegal behavior..........
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I'm still wondering how this in some way affects you?
Guh, um hum derrrr. So......? And......? Guh, um hum derrrr'. Please explain......? Duly noted......? I'M A FUCKIN' CUNT, Please Explain......? um derrrr' duly noted.....?
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04-24-2008, 07:35 AM
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The beaners coming into our country illegally. If we only shot a few hundred trying to get in no one else would try. Simple. Punish illegal behavior..........
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So the beaners would STILL come if the employers of illegals were FORCED to stop providing the jobs magnet that draws the beaners here? Is that what you're saying?
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