Hey DP,I want chime in.You sound like you want to make this a federal issue
and not the states problem .It is not only jobs taken away and the steady
decline in the appreciation and salery of labor force but also the billions
in cost social services(health care welfare and education).States should be forced to report and deport illegals or lose federal funds.States like California
are not likely to comply without the risk of losing funding
It affects us all in ways our leaders apparently wont see until to late.
If you are a carpenter,brick layer floor layer or contractor you have seen
your wages decline for years.You will never get a contract in a Mexican household because he has a buddy that did it once before and is now an expert who can do it for half. the Mexican barter system doesn't work
there and it ihas landed here! Send them home
CLAY is right punishing anyone hiring illegals and they will self -deport.
A concept not likely to reach the large brains in our government

I already understand that we have "under God" in the pledge, but no laws against hypocrisy.

How can market friendly public policy not be good any market participants in a given market? From my understanding, the electorate is as not as well informed as it should be to hold their elected representatives to government more accountable.

I think our Constitution matters if we are to consider the US, a nation of laws. The states have no authority over naturalization issues since 1808. It is clearly articulated in a document that purports to be the supreme law of the land.

I thought it was understood that what separated us from the evil communist empires was that we are good capitalist pigs, not evil communist pigs. Capitalists are in business to accumulate capital. The private sector does not have any more authority over naturalization issues than do the several states; it is a federal responsibility, and we pay taxes that governmental function from the general government of the Union.

The private sector has a Ninth and Tenth Amendment power and right to create social contracts that may result in employment. The states are specifically denied and disparaged the power and right over naturalization issues in the United States since 1808.

A market friendly work visa would employ the same business model as an amusement park. Revenue generated from that public sector business venture could be used to offset public sector costs, lower other public sector and private sector cost, and can be used to ensure a public policy of zero percent poverty in the US.

I would agree with you if we had a unitary form of federal government. We do not. Since everyone agrees that we are a nation of laws, we already have a supreme law of the land that states that it is not a States rights' or powers issue.

A market friendly work visa scheme could solve the problem of migrant, black market labor participation. Current illegals could simply be fined and issued a work visa. Anyone going through normal channels would not need to pay a fine.

Better compliance with state at-will employment laws and doctrine could solve one issue regarding wages. If US labor market participants can apply for unemployment, at-will, then they can stay out of the labor market and do something else to improve their skill sets to become more marketable or simply pursue happiness, at rock bottom cost. As a simplification of the benefit to US labor market participants, they could simply choose to not provide traditional labor input to the economy if they feel they are being underpaid due to cheap foreign labor.

I'm wondering if you actually think that anybody knows WTF you're really talking about.

Dp ,some of what you say makes sense.Better compliance would be great.But you have liberal cities like SF and LA in my state refusing
to comply or help enforce federal law.I guess politicians fear the loss of hispanic votes.Truth is some of my Mexican friends would like to see the borders closed and hate what the rampent influx of iilegals has done
to our economy.Take federal money away for non-compliance and see
what happens

A simple and market friendly solution to our "illegal" problem. We already know that any politician trying to convince us to go for another round of amnesty doesn't have a solution to our problem, only a solution to getting (re-) elected.

What is it about potentially lowering our tax burden, and also lowering other public and private sector costs do you have any issues with?

There would be much less non-compliance if there were a market-friendly work visa scheme, instead of our current public policy of prohibition, which has never worded in the history of the US.

Your market friendly solution to the flood of illegal Mexcian scabs into this country is just another form of amnesty.

We need a national employers of illegals sanctions law that FORCES the employers of illegals to stop hiring illegal Mexican scabs. We're destroying America and American values so that a few industries can get the so called cheap illegal Mexican scab labor, which is totally subsidized out of American taxpayers pockets.

Democrats will triple the welfare for these illegals and they will come over for the welfare and will not have to work for US employers.

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Bush-lite fooled the American people

Yes and greedy retailers force Hardworking American contractors and
various others to cut prices for there work to compete with the new
Mexican standards.I have proof .The fact that I can no longer get labor prices that I got twenty years ago is one.Do you know 20 years ago the average butcher made 19.00 per hour and now it $10.And food prices were a lot less.Labor is no longer appreciated as people can always find some
illegal to fuck something up for half.American standard of living is deteriorating
for a PC agenda.Punish those hiring illegals and send them back.So we can
have our country back